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[–] [email protected] 67 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Ugh guys come on, don’t let perfect be the enemy of good (or better). We cannot snap our fingers and fix everything. Incremental steps are necessary.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

Incremental steps are not personal EVs. They are diesel and electric buses. EVs eliminate 1 problem (tailpipe emissions) while creating 2 more (battery manufacturing, increased vehicle weight making road and tire wear worse, and making them more deadly - there's others, take your pick) and not addressing the other hundred problems with car dependence.

Buses use the same infrastructure as cars. Bus stops are stupid cheap in comparison to anything else. And then, bus lanes can be implemented to prioritise buses and keep them from getting stuck in traffic.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

The number one (by a long way) selling vehicle in the US is a massively over sized truck. Designed to be so heavy to avoid falling under emissions laws.

There is no electric vehicle that comes even close to that. You want those people interested in electric cars. They don't give a single fuck about what your think about buses and nothing you will ever do in your lifetime will change that. Ever.

Getting people into EVs is an across the board incremental improvement in the exact definition of the word.

You're right about the massive benefits of transit and trains in particular would be so amazing.. but none of the people we want getting out of F150s give a single shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

@xenoclast @ProgrammingSocks once you add a weight tax and special license qualifications they might start changing their tune

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, but they're also a pretty big part of the voter base, so how would you get that passed?

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