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[–] [email protected] 92 points 10 months ago (33 children)

This is just basic psychology. It takes a long time to change someone's political beliefs, and it isn't effective to just argue with people, even with facts. Interestingly, one way to get people to change their opinion is to frame things in terms of how it affects them and their family.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Hey covid will still kill you even if you call it a hoax.
Rep: you God damn liberals are ruining this county Several family members die
Rep: they died of pneumonia not covid covid is a hoax and a Chinese bioweapon.

Like I can't tell that they actually give a fuck about reality anymore even when they can directly see it killing them they still deny it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That's a different problem. Too much propaganda from right wing interests.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So how do you combat that if even their family dying around them isn't enough to get them to even consider those people on tv might have lied to them?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wish I knew the answer. At this point, much of it has become closely linked to their personality, and is basically a cult.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

This. I had to finally cut out a conservative friend after a long run of various nonsense, far from the least of which was him shushing me for being "too political" saying I want our half hour busses back - right before him and his girlfriend talked guns and other pointed "conservative" interests for an hour.

I was just there for them to flex on and outnumber for fun. We have common interests and used to discuss and enjoy them together, her included, but without any of our other friends around to put weight on the balance they could indulge in their favorite past time - Dunking on librulz.

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