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In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn't feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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[–] [email protected] 218 points 8 months ago (42 children)

I love all the comments saying "yeah well that stuff isn't free someone has to maintain it"

YOU'RE PAYING 100K FOR A FUCKING CAR

That's the payment. That's what they get their money from.

Wanting more in perpetuity is fucking stupid no matter what the excuse is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (5 children)

The issue is that with ongoing service across time, the longer the service is being used the more it costs Kia. The larger the time boxes Kia uses the bigger the number is and the more you're going to scare off customers.

Using Kias online build and price, looks like the most expensive Telluride you can get right now is $60k MSRP, cheapest at 30k

Let's assume Kia estimates average lifetime of a Telluride to be 20 years so they create an option to purchase this service one time for the "lifetime" of the vehicle. Taking in good faith the pricing Kia has listed, using that $150 annual package, and assuming that price goes up every year at a rate of 10% (what Netflix, YouTube, etc have been doing) across those twenty years you're looking at around $8.5k option. At the top trim thats still 14% extra that is going to make some buyers hesitant, at the base model that's 28% more expensive.

Enough buyers will scoff at that so Kia can either ditch the idea entirely as they'll lose money on having to pay for the initial development and never make their money back, or they find some way to repackage that cost and make it look like something that buyers are willing to deal with.

To me the bigger issue is the cost of the service vs what you're getting. Server time + dev team + mobile data link cannot be costing Kia more than a few million annually, mid to upper hundred K is more likely so they must not be expecting that many people to actually be paying for any of this

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The average lifespan of a Kia is 20 years

Ay LMAO

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Oh yeah I pulled 20 years out of my ass. I could see some manager there saying to plan for it even though all the engineers expect a much shorter lifetime

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