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‘Star Trek: Picard’ Wins 4 Saturn Awards, ‘Strange New Worlds’ Wins 1

https://trekmovie.com/2024/02/04/star-trek-picard-wins-4-saturn-awards-strange-new-worlds-wins-1/

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Worst? I hardly think that.

SNW is wonderful. It feels like old Star Trek in such a wonderful way that sets it apart from the weaknesses of Discovery, even though it was birthed out of Discovery.

Picard was at worst inoffensive. Slow in places, season 2 was weird, and season 3 was solid albeit looking back at it with a little time, a ton of it was nostalgia and finally wrapping up everything about TNG.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Look, Picard Season 03 was in my opinion done to save that series, the two prior seasons were really bad, so they went finally with what was foolproof, fan-service.

I wouldn't say there was any need to wrap up anything for TNG, I am not complaining they did, I liked it, but this only happened to save face for the prior two seasons.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

@RootBeerGuy

Picard was, IMO, not a TV series, but pure fan service. If it hadn't been for Jeri Ryan, it wouldn't have been watchable. The third season was the worst.

SNW was clearly made to not offend anybody. Solidly made, no experiments.

Just the right thing to keep an extremely conservative fan base happy.

Discovery had one (big) flaw:

Unnecessary dialogues!

Except for the episodes directed by Jonathan Frakes, they totally ignored the "Show, don't tell" rule.

1/2

@Evilcoleslaw

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@RootBeerGuy

Otherwise, Discovery isn't bad.

It has quite good characters, good actors and a compelling story arc.

I didn't like the overload of visual effects, but this seems to be a thing of our time.

2/2

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@mina @RootBeerGuy @Evilcoleslaw I have another opinion about DISCO. Good characters? Well, which ones? They are so rarely shown as individuals, that I can't make any emotional connection to them. Or they are simply annoying. Good actors? Some of them are good, but not the main characters. Constant crying, behaving like stupid teenagers and repeating megalomaniac "only the main character saves the universe" story. The visual effects are unintentionally funny. Flamethrowers on bridge, really?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I agree about the characters. It's my main problem with the series. It got a little better as time went on but so many of the bridge crew may have well been extras for the first couple seasons. It wouldn't have changed anything because it was The Michael Burnham Show.

The overarching season plots also keep getting more and more worn out as it goes. It's okay to have the stakes be lower than destruction on a galactic scale. It's okay to slow down and tell interesting stories and not feel like a panicked mess.

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