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[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Exactly. If you know nothing about a topic, you don't even know, what exactly to google, except "how to make computer do stuff".

The initial hurdle of incompetence can be extremely frustrating and almost impossible to climb, if you don't have guidance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

If you want to learn how to code, can't you just google "coding tutorial for beginners" or something similar? Probably you would need to pick a language, but that would similarly be solved with "recommended coding language for beginners". Then it's very easy to find a resource that starts with hello world and gradually introduces new things. And I'm sure if it moved beyond a browser toolbox, a guide for setting up whatever IDE would be included.

Learning to code is by no means easy, but it's possibly the best type of thing to learn when it comes to having a wealth of free, easily discoverable guides. The main obstacle is choosing to put in the time, and this comic removes that obstacle by forcing them to not put it off.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

No because most tutorials will start from "write print("Hello World")" and the like without mentioning compiling or where to write it or with what...

I didn't really get into coding until someone guided me through the basics of python, which is an easy language that doesn't even require compiling. One of the reasons was precisely not knowing where to start.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

It's gotten a lot better in recent years tbf in terms of those kinds of resources. Beginner recommended languages like Python are still a pain because it's super easy for a beginner to bork how they set it up, but on the whole there's plenty of online code sandboxes and other ways to get started.

Your point is definitely valid though. Why on earth would we want someone who's just showing an interest in programming to write their own compiler??? Wtf? If someone wants to get into baking you don't send them out into the fields for 6 months to grow some wheat.

When I was a kid I mucked around with html and css to make some GeoCities sites. I decided I wanted to learn how to code so I got a book from the library called "how to code games for beginners" or something. The thing never told you how to set up an IDE or compile the game. So I was just frustratingly typing out the code examples into notepad without a clue as to what to do. I think this was during the dialup era so it wasn't like there was a wealth of info online.

I ended up abandoning programming for quite a few years. It just seemed like nonsense because writing graphics libs for C in notepad does feel like nonsense to a child. I wonder what life would be like if I had some better resources at that moment in time and decided you continue pursuing it.

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