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Day one D1 player here. I finally ditched out with Lightfall (I could not even finish the campaign). I really want to finish the saga but I just can't bring myself to play it. I hear PvP is worse than dead now.
I expect Sony to shutter Bungie pretty soon, which is sad because a Destiny series and spinoff games in other genres that further the lore might have been really cool.
They could fix Destiny 2, but not with the staff a budget they have now.
Split PvE and PvP.
-> Sell story based expansions for PvE.
-> Keep all the stupid microtransactions and vanity items in F2P PvP.
-> Balance the weapons separately for each mode.
Transfer characters between modes at will.
Restore ALL the vaulted content to PvE. All of it.
Make all the story missions selectable from the map, just like D1 always has been.
Make sure all the story missions have clear level markers so they can be played in the proper order (again, just like D1.)
The only times I went to PvP I only did so to complete some quest, and I only did so with lots of comfort food available. It was a horror show every time. As a pure PvE player, I got pissed off too many times when Bungie nerfed my stuff because people in PvP got upset about something AGAIN.
I don’t like it when people call developers lazy. It’s bullshit 99% of times. So I think the problem was with the players themselves. We (including myself) showed the higher ups at Bungie, that we would still buy the next season, the next expansion no matter what.
Your other points are also true. It reminds me when D1 was at its best in the year before D2 was released. All quest available, all weapons and exotics obtainable. All raids returned in an updated manner with their weapons, gear and even some shiny shit you could put on your stuff to sparkle more.
I left Destiny 2 roughly 2 years ago and I don’t miss it. Fuck that clusterfuck of an addiction made video game. It’s not even the good kind of addictive like Factorio. It just pisses you off and you still keep playing.
I don't give a shit what their excuses were or are, there was absolutely no reason (aside from forcing people to buy the new expansions) for Bungie to give the middle finger to literally everyone who had bought the game and the first couple expansions by vaulting it and taking it out of the game.
I remember when it first happened, and people in the Destiny subreddits were actually defending Bungie for the decision. "iT mAkEs ThE gAmE rUn BeTtEr!" bull-fucking-shit. I paid 70 goddamn dollars to play the content that was advertised, not for it to go F2P less than a year after release, them to actually delete the base campaign the game shipped with (along with the expansions), and no one who bought the game got any kind of consolation. Just "fuck you, everyone can play it for free now and we have your money."
Don't get me wrong, I don't necessarily have an issue with it going F2P, just that it was kind of out of nowhere and no one who had actually bought the game got anything from it; not even just a bullshit cosmetic.
ETA:
BULL. FUCKING. SHIT. If MCC can get away with having 5 full games in one and still be close to 200gb, then D2 can get away with having the campaign and all expansions available for everyone. Have we all forgotten that ARK: SE is an actual 200gb install? Or even Warzone for that matter? A lot of people won't give a shit about the install size if yours is one of the few games they're actively playing. It's like Bungie wanted to shoot themselves in both feet.
And, by removing the campaign, they ganked the new player onboarding. People had no idea what was happening.