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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

There was an attempt at nation building and it didn't go well. Afghanistan and the Middle East is a culturally complicated place, it's mostly tribes and smaller villages with a lot of history. It's hard to point fingers at the US for leaving when a decent chunk of the country either didn't care, or didn't want them there anymore.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Even if the US intentions were good (and they were not great, basically being revenge for 9/11), who wants to be ruled by a foreign invader?

If some alien superpower invaded the USA tomorrow, gave them free healthcare, 40 days holiday a year from work, legalised abortion again and mountains of affordable housing in the places people actually wanted to live, they'd still fight back. Even if it meant things going back to how they were before.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Bold of you to think people would fight back against that lol.

That actually sounds incredible

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just like Afghans, many liked the US, the taliban didn't. There'd be a percentage of the population fighting tooth and nail.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

And it creates the question -- what should the aliens do long term?

If they leave, what do they owe those of us who liked them?

I really struggle with this. I can't say as an American that we don't owe them anything. But I also can't say that it's our job to go back and invade once more. We've done that. I don't know what changes we could make to change the outcome.

Sorry for the sudden musings, haha

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