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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (14 children)

If anything this means Europe’s cities just can’t accommodate cars, because they weren’t built for them. The weird thing is that American cities were built for cars and yet still can’t accommodate cars. Traffic, lack of parking, road rage… it’s a huge mess, and it seems like the more you commit to cars, the worse it all gets. That’s the trouble with cars. They just don’t work.

I don’t really understand this comment though. It doesn’t take thousands of years to achieve urban density. And what does America’s sprawl have to do with loving large cars? You don’t need a huge car to drive medium distances.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (12 children)

You need density to support a train system. You need a large number of riders to make it economical and you need them living within a reasonable distance of the stations. The US is very spread out. You can blame cars for that but that is the world we live in. The US is also very big with large rural areas, the western US didn't even really develop until trains came out in the 1869. Europe was built around compact cities based on horses and walking long before cars.

I agree that we are too car focused and it has become a sort of arms race, build more roads, more cars, more roads, etc.

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