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I've been using my OnePlus 6t since launch and love it, but I am very interested in Linux phones now. I've been an early adopter before, but it's finally getting where I think I need it to be to try. I pretty much only do basic phone functions and emulation. Would a Pinephone Pro have the power to run something like a Wii or 3ds game? What about an older ported game like STALKER? Curious just how much it could do

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[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The OnePlus 6T outperforms the PinePhone Pro by quite a bit. The OnePlus 6T is actually a pretty good Linux phone these days with postmarketOS. I picked one up to use as a Linux phone (as well as a OnePlus 6 now, but that one's running Android). I used the PinePhone for about a year, the PinePhone Pro for about a year, and now I've been using the OnePlus 6T as my daily driver for 6 months or so. I ended up getting the OnePlus 6 (non-T) and leaving it as an Android phone though, picking up a second SIM card because I had call audio issues on both Linux phones so I told people to just call me on my Android number. I still mainly use the Linux phone for everything else because the software ecosystem works so much better for me.

Pros of OnePlus 6T:

  • Much better battery life (can last most of a day with screen off)

  • Much better performance

  • Much better GPU - Full OpenGL and Vulkan support on the OP6T

  • Much lower power consumption (doesn't get anywhere near as hot)

  • Louder speaker

  • Better Bluetooth (my BT headphones lag to an unusable degree on the PinePhone and PinePhone Pro when there are other devices around, but are usable on the OnePlus 6T)

  • Higher resolution, brighter, OLED screen

Cons of OnePlus 6T

  • Bootloader is proprietary and cannot be replaced

  • Android boot and partition scheme

  • Call audio doesn't work reliably, sometimes calls will have no sound

  • Modem doesn't receive calls unless it is forced to 2G mode, which limits Internet speed (texts seem fine though) likely due to missing VoLTE

  • Sensors (rotation, ambient light, etc) require testing an open merge request at the moment, but it does work

  • No USB host mode support (software/driver limitation)

  • No external display support (apparently hardware limitation)

  • No headphone jack (the OnePlus 6 does have it though)

  • No SD card slot

  • No removable battery

  • Cameras don't work at all

  • No keyboard case option

Pros of PinePhone Pro

  • Better Linux support overall

  • More OS choices

  • More bootloader choices, which include completely open options

  • SD card slot

  • Headphone jack

  • Removable battery

  • Keyboard case option

  • Cameras work to a degree

  • Much more repairable

Cons of PinePhone Pro

  • Eats battery like no other phone I've ever used, the keyboard case is almost a must-have just for usable battery life

  • Gets quite hot while eating battery

  • Lacks more modern OpenGL versions, Vulkan support

  • Modem has a tendency to disconnect and reconnect occasionally, even with open source modem firmware

  • Call audio can have some static or distortion, especially on your end (the microphone)

  • Keyboard case makes using it as a phone cumbersome

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

@CalcProgrammer1 @LeylaLove

Extra point regarding power consumption:

It's possible to trade a small sub-part of the open U-Boot bootloader and use a proprietary T-FA and DRAM initialisation from Rockchip that enables DRAM downclocking on the phone's RK3399 and this saves a ton of power, bringing the PinePhone Pro to a much more usable range.

See here: https://xnux.eu/log/091.html

I've been using that together with SailfishOS on mine.
I might try this rk2aw+drbin+U-Boot on my PineBook Pro, too.

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