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Ukraine’s Jewish president says world must stand united against terror as Hamas launches deadly surprise assault

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, whose country is fending off a Russian invasion, said Saturday that Israel had an unquestionable right to defend itself from attacks from Palestinian terrorists.

The Hamas terror group launched an unprecedented assault on Israel in the morning, firing thousands of rockets, sending gunmen into Israeli communities and military bases by land, sea and air, killing at least 200 people, injuring over 1,400, and taking hostages.

“Israel’s right to defense is indisputable,” Zelensky, who is Jewish, said on Telegram.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, but again, both sides are not innocent here.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The civilians in both sides are not equal imo.

On the Palestinians side, the Hamas isn't an elected group. It's an independent terrorist group. People that don't get recruited, and people that don't harbor them willingly are innocent.

On the Israelites side, anyone that voted for the governments that commit those atrocities are slightly more guilty in my eyes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

They seized control later on, but Hamas was elected in 2006. Still though, of course there's plenty of Palestinians who don't support Hamas

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Guilty enough to deserve death?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely not. I'm not saying that what's the Hamas is doing is fine. I'm just calling out the hypocrisy of the whole situation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Something this attack has shown is that we interchangeably make geopolitical statements and value judgments -- or rather, that there is no distinction between the two in discourse. Talking about how Israel's far right policies are responsible for this is a geopolitical analysis for instance, but that in no way diminishes value judgments that the murderers are to blame for the murders. I suspect this difference between "how we got here" and "what just happened" is causing a lot of tension and miscommunication.