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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nothing will disenchant the followers. This is ammo for them. Their guy is getting "persecuted" by the "evil Democrats and corrupt judges". They are more likely to want to destroy the government because they distrust it.

I mean, IDGAF. Trump delende est. But the Base will never defect.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Their guy is getting “persecuted”

Yes I know Trump has pushed that narrative vigorously, and his followers have been buying it. I just don't think they'll see him as the strong guy they want to lead them to their dystopian future. When they see him lose over and over again.

I think Trump may have tried to encourage his followers to civil war, we know he uses Hitler's playbook, and according to him, you can take a country if you can convince 10-20% of the people to do it. Luckily this has fallen absolutely flat, and he seems to be more and more desperate to make his followers react, but they don't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Boris Yeltsin was lambasted by the Soviet elites. They published nonstop criticism and lies. At one point they published how he was a pedophile and the public didn't even care. He laughed about it during a speech because it was, in the eyes of his supporters, an obvious fabrication.

Boris ended up being a drunk fuck up and lost the favor of Russians but he did that to himself. To be fair, economic shock therapy, inflation, and the perceived exploitation of Russia by the West contributed too. That's why I think Trump will not be taken down by losing court cases or by media outrage. He must do it to himself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

That is all true, but there are many differences between Boris Yeltsin and Trump. In Russia they never came to enjoy actual democracy. So they probably didn't believe or care much about it. And they had little reason to believe the press.

Come to think of it, you are probably right.