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Nevermind fining Twitter. Elon will see it as a badge of honour and Trumpspin.
What the EU needs to do is block access to the website outright across its member states.
Ah yes! Censor the internet! That’s the solution!
Twitter is not the internet, its now a misinformation site that financially rewards that misinformation. The slow death of twitter prompted the birth of threads, bluesky and mastodon to name 3. One goes, three rise. And nobody is being censored - thats the point. What this would be is the consequence of their misuse of free speech.
There are an awful lot of users who disagree with that and use it daily. I’m on there on and off all day to interact with my industry and the only misinformation I see is ads for games that have fake gameplay.
This is just more of the same “Elon bad” crap over and over. Seriously, you’re encouraging the EU to censor the internet like China does because space man is bad.
If you can browse Twitter without seeing a myriad of racial slurs and dogwhistles, you're either browsing with your eyes closed or just don't mind racism.
Onto the actual point
There's a lot of people that agree that Trump wasn't a complete liar. That doesn't make it any less true that he was.
Still don't think the internet should be censored, just think Twitter is a shithole.
Or you stay in your bubble, not seeing any algorithmic suggestion but only discussing with people you trust. Not saying it's better but definitely one possible way to use it.
twitter has been the best place to get real time updates about both the ukraine war and now this israel v hamas conflict
i don't doubt there's a lot of questionable content on there, but the value in spreading information outside of "official sources" is huge. the first casualty in a war is the truth and governments would love to get rid of people spreading the reality of the facts on the ground
Yeah but when there's a million and one people with zero knowledge on the situation parroting "facts" that's called misinformation. Not to say that having a variety of viewpoints and sources isn't important, just that a social media site where anybody can say or post anything isn't the best way of getting it.
two days ago, there were reports going around online that 20 drones had entered israel from lebanon in the north. the information was coming from the IDF. at the same time, sirens were going off across all of northern israel. 1.5 million israelis were told to shelter in place. again, information from the IDF
right after this, rumors online started going around that the US government was evacuating their embassy in beirut, essentially implying that the war was going to spread to lebanon. a really big deal, if true
turns out those were false. the rumors spread about 30 minutes or so and then the embassy in beirut responded to this and said there was no evacuation.
moral of story? yes, misinformation spreads quickly. people are deathly afraid and fear spreads like fire. but it also gets debunked because there are people out there paying attention.
it's sort of the idea of the open marketplace of ideas. bullshit spreads, but there are people out there dedicated to the truth. it's a price we have to pay, otherwise we would be blind to these things.
The problem arises insofar as people being deceived and not even trying or being willing to see the truth, like the Trump cult in the US.
yes but that has little do to with random people sharing misinformation and more concentrated efforts by people with resources to try and manipulate the population
this is something that happens with or without social media. billionaires love spreading their pet ideologies. banning social media won't stop them and in fact probably just helps them as "official" sources become the only source of information.
Twitter is, like any other public space, filled with those you choose to follow and their friends, etc etc. If you follow people who post things you don’t like, we’ll that’s what you get.
I swear I’m not just making this up. I’ll gladly take screenshots of the first 10 pages of my feed anytime and you won’t see anything distasteful. You will see crypto scams and some crypto bros saying nonsense, but that’s no different from walking into a 7-11 in the city. Haha
Yeah. Exactly. Space man is bad. It's not free speech to harm others. We are in the US where woman don't have rights over their choices in many states.
What is this “free speech to harm others” narrative? Can you explain the logic on that one?
We tried not censoring the internet and it hasn't worked
If it makes you feel better, think of it as Europe defederating from Twitter
Whoever chooses which sites get banned from the internet has a whole load of power. They could feasibly, in time, become corrupt and end up banning threats to corporate monopolies, like the Fediverse.
So instead we allow known, unelected bad actors like Musk free reign, to protect us from hypothetical elected future bad actors?
They will become corrupt over time. Power and money yield corruption. Always.
Exactly. So I wouldn't trust anyone with the power to dictate which websites you can visit and which you can't
Ya and ban all forms of protest against apartheid.
That's the EU and it would be the US too if we didn't have the first amendment