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vegan food isn't expensive. artificial meat replacements are expensive, because you're paying someone to chemically torture plants until they vaguely remind you of animals. lentils, beans, and other awesome-tasting protein sources are dirt cheap. vegan-first dishes are great and really cheap.
See, it's arrogant, and stupid shit like this that makes me wanna go get a burger just to spite ya.
"Oh fucking no!! I am torturing plants and shit blah blah blah"
No fucking wonder.
Ignoring the obvious joke you missed. If someone being a little rude is enough to make you completely give up on your ethical/moral stance, you need to grow a spine dude .
If a gay person is an ass to me i dont decide to become homophobic and blame it on them.
I won't go near the comparison to one's sexual preference, to another voluntary dietary habits.
But, you're not wrong. If this was something that was super important to me and life affecting, then you are completely right.
Now, as someone who is just trying to not eat meat for personal and whatever reasons, that's not how you get people into your cause. I am not bound to it, and the perception of the community is something i get to have liberty with.
How about "well, it's not an animal. not bad". Not being me with my kid hearing that her favorite burger patty (the impossible one) is a waste of money and an embarrassment to the real vegans in the middle of the safeway by a random asshole stranger, who had the after thought to explain how tofu is better totally not noticing that his very life is in danger.
Oh yes the voluntary dietary habit of taking a sentient being's life against its will because it's tasty and I can't be bothered to learn how to cook properly using plants.
Nice internet tough guy shit at the end there 
In fairness, it's really easy to act like a badass in front of...am I reading that right, some hypothetical guy in Costco who told his daughter she's not a real vegan?
I didn't act or anything. I just stood there much like here watching the entitled dietary moron go off.
But I was really annoyed so like the imaginary cool vegan, it was more contexts. But good notes. It was Safeway. No wonder yall are not taken seriously.
Once again, because it's come up so many times in this thread, not at all vegan, definitely omnivorous, just not someone who assumes their membership in the majority defines them as a victim unlike the coward [email protected]
There's nothing at all wrong with eating fake meats. i do all the time. Thats not the point i was making
lmao did you just fantasize about threatening a vegan while grocery shopping?
I think that may have been a joke.
It was a joke Mark. A Christmas joke.
Lol I eat meat but knock yourself out there hero
This is not arrogance it's playful language for humorous effect. The real reason to not eat fake meat is that it usually doesn't taste very good no matter how you prepare it, whereas traditional vegan food can be amazing
As a man who fed a vegan child for 8 years…no. Vegan meals cost way more.
That one kid cost as much as two non vegan kids to feed.
Maybe it was because I was buying what she said to buy.
Fortunately when her mom tearfully said, “please be a vegetarian until you grow up and buy your own food.” she went with it.
It was a nightmare feeding her separate from the rest of us, but I respected her choices. I had to cook two meals every evening. That was rough.
Glad she’s grown and off at college. I miss her but I don’t miss all that extra work.
It's absolutely trivial to cook meals vegan or vegetarian and simply add meat separately at the end, or not add it at all. What you're describing is just piss-poor meal planning and has nothing to do with the cost of vegetables.
Or you were just buying every prepackaged bit of vegan food in the store.
You should've asked for help from the vegan community - it could've been really easy. :(
You’re right.
It wasn’t just the vegan thing though. My kid is autistic and absolutely wouldn’t eat anything other than what she put on her list. Like to the point we had to get her help.
I guess that’s something I shouldn’t have left out. It just wasn’t something that even crossed my mind as I made the comment.
It's interesting that while you were making this up you couldn't decide whether your kid was vegetarian or vegan. You'd think with cooking two separate meals every night you'd be familiar with the difference.