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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Love the downvotes on this. Perfect propaganda so well funded. But now it's not commies it's 'tankies'

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

My partner family lived in communist Romania. They almost starved when the communists stole their fields to collectivize them and then they misused them. Not only that but the "securitate" (Romanian KGB) created real fear between everyone. This was the real problem of communist Romania, not the foreign intervention. Eventually people got tired of leaving in a state of terror and they overthrew the government.

There's a Spanish book about Communism and the Spanish civil war. In Spanish is "Dime quien soy" something like "Tell me who I am". It talks a lot about people that really believed in the communist idea but that got killed because of Stalin being a dictator.

Edit: To all of you downvoting me. None of you have addressed the trust issues that the "securitate" created in the Romanian society. Many pro-comunists were killed by Stalin's delusion. I'm not saying that communism is completely evil but Romania was far from a paradise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think I'll take statistics over your propagandistic anecdote

A 2010 poll conducted by the Romanian Institute for Evaluation and Strategy provided similar results. Of the 1,460 respondents, 54 percent claimed that they had better living standards during communism, while 16 percent said that they were worse. Moreover, 49 percent claimed that Ceausescu was a good leader, 30 percent believed he was neither good nor bad, while 15 said he was bad. The survey has a 2.7 percent margin of error at the 95 percent confidence level.

According to a recent poll, many Romanians remain nostalgic for communism, over two decades after dictator Nicolae Ceausescu was overthrown. The INSCOP Research poll revealed that 44.4 percent of the respondents believed that living conditions were better under communism, 15.6 said that they had stayed the same, while only 33.6 claimed that life was worse back then. When asked about dictator Ceausescu, 47.5 of the respondents claimed that he had a relatively positive role in Romania’s recent history, while 46.9 said that his role was rather negative. The recent poll was conducted between November 7 and 14, 2014, on a sample of 1,055 participants, with a 3 percent margin of error at the 95 percent confidence level.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/can-europe-make-it/communist-nostalgia-in-romania/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But-but-but his family had the egg monopoly and the evil dictator Ceausescu stole it from them! Every egg in Romania!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And I'm from Poland. The government reversed the decision to collectivize agricultural land in 1956, lowering the amount of state owned farms from 10000 to 1500 after Bierut died.

By 1996, when the last one was privatized, there were roughly 2000 of them at the start of the campaign in 1992 with a total of about 3750 thousands of hectares of a (current) total of 14630 - a quarter of farmland in the country.

Yet Poland, with its mostly private agriculture, was known for the worst supply situation in the Eastern Bloc. Gotta love the hand of the market, especially since the west imposed high interest rates on loans taken in the 70s (as countries do between each other). The government of the 90s, deciding that it was going to get richer faster with the market rather than a planned economy it was barely wanting to have it (as the "communists" of the PZPR were largely just nationalists), went through market reforms and what happened? Prices shot up, poverty increased to dramatic amounts, unemployment was over 20% for a part of the 90s (not even including those who had given up on looking for a job), organized crime started roaming the streets and doing stuff like killing mom's childhood friends... and of course the farmlands themselves, since this is the topic, became desolate towns with antisemitic graffiti, a 60+ year old average age and nothing going on for them to this day.

But you probably think this is cool and good. After all, the people there can work their asses off at more than 40h/week at a workplace they have even less say in than in the west, to pay German prices for goods of a quality you'd find in the bargain bin here, a food that will kill you over time, and come back home to froth at the mouth about how the "LGBT Lobby" is trying to turn their kids gay while then going on rants against the oh so free government and opposition because they're "all thieves" anyway... and against foreigners. After all, they're only following the logic of the market and doing what the west wants of them (i.e. keep the wages low and profits high).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You’re a kulak

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"Communism and collectivization were in the closet making babies, and I saw one of the babies, and then the baby looked at me."

  • this dude's great-Grandpa in law
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Remind me, who was Romania allies with during ww2? And what did they do to Jewish people in the areas outside of Romania that they helped the nazis invade and occupy?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

None of you have addressed the trust issues

Many pro-comunists were killed by Stalin’s delusion.

Sorry, we are not adressing crocodile tears shed in bad faith by anticoms. Reddit is that way -> reddit logo

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is not reddit, you murderous commie.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

“I regret the demise of Communism—not for me, but when I see how much my children and grandchildren struggle. We had safe jobs and decent salaries under Communism. We had enough to eat and we had yearly vacations with our children”.

  • 68-year-old retired Romanian mechanic, quoted in George Jahn, “In Romania, Turmoil Fuels Nostalgia for Communism,” Washington Post, January 11, 2011.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Can you use quote syntax in Markdown instead of code blocks please?

It’s harder to scroll through a code block on mobile