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It is 'nearly unavoidable' that AI will cause a financial crash within a decade, SEC head says::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Back in January, I was showing a colleague ChatGPT 3.5. We asked it to design a corner desk and gave it very little input. It came up with a design that had drawers which would interfere with each other. My colleague has used that example ever since of why AI is dumb and will never be successful.

Like, really? You can't envision progress beyond the current state of this VERY early tech? I see it all the time on here too. People dismissing AI image generation because it got the fingers wrong, or pointing out various chat responses with errors. To me, it reeks of desperate ignorance. People feel threatened by AI, especially groups like artists. So they point and laugh at it in its current state and go "see, it could NEVER replace a human!"

But it can, and it will. It's like Blockbuster dismissing streaming sites because they couldn't possibly have enough variety, and who wants to deal with the internet to watch something? Years later, everyone will be scratching their heads going "how the hell could they not see it coming? It should have been obvious!" And it IS obvious. AI will advance and shake many industries to their core; and not only are creative industries not immune, they're arguably the most at risk.

Who wants to pay a graphics designer to spend over a week coming up with various mock-up when you could get infinitely more options in a few minutes with an AI program? One of the big points of the recent Hollywood actor/writer strike is opposition to AI. But it's already too late for that. Studios are ABSOLUTELY going to use AI to replace actors and writers, they'd be crazy not to. Why would you want to use a human that can get tired, have their own opinions/interpretation of things, require pay/royalties, and might do or say something controversial in their lives that causes people to boycott them? Hell, we've already replaced animals for the most part. Almost no modern films or shows use real animals anymore, it's all CGI.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not dismissing its usefulness for those scenario's (see my response to Veltoss below). But people tend to way over-estimate what it is capable of.

Generating an office layout? Yeah absolutely, because that's largely based on prior art, no real innovation required. Though as you noted you'll almost certainly need to "steer" the AI because there's so many variables and permutations that it cannot realistically come up with a perfect solution without real intelligence. It'll require iteration from "someone" no matter how advanced it gets.

But AI as it exists right now won't replace let's say your office manager, who would probably be given the responsibility of planning the office layout. Because their job entails making lots of intelligence based judgment calls. That said; given they will get more AI powered tools to do their job there may be fewer jobs available overall because now your office manager at some big office won't need an assistant anymore.

Note I am not saying that AI affecting our economy isn't happening or won't happen. I'm merely saying that any predictions people are making should be met with a heavy amount of doubt, because there is so much misunderstanding out there.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But AI as it exists right now

That's the fallacy. We aren't talking about AI right now but rather what AI is going to look like 4-5 years from now. Think about how much advancement has happened in just the last year. Last year, ChatGPT was barely a thing, and image generation was little better than vague, blobby shapes that took a lot of computing power to create.

It's absurd to talk about "AI as it exists right now" because within months, "right now" will be horribly outdated.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But that's plain fantasy at this point. The current form of AI is fundamentally not intelligent. Advancement of the current form of AI won't change that.

The current form of AI is like the speech center of your brain. On its own it does not constitute a brain, nor will it ever "evolve" to be its own brain.

So the current form of AI may end up forming a small part of the whole, but that whole is as of yet still a fantasy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yea yea, and this newfangled technology called the Internet is so underdeveloped that no one's gonna use it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m not sure you fully appreciate what “advancement” means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

In this context I’d imagine you meant what the technology could evolve into. But what I’m saying is the technology is fundamentally incapable of being intelligent.

I imagine you think of “the technology” as just artificial intelligence in general. I’m talking about the actual technology in todays “ai”. The inner workings.