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My stance on the situation briefly: State of Israel shouldn't have been put there in the first place. Zionists are religious extremists and I'm against them. Palestinians on the other hand had their land forcibly taken from them which I don't agree with, and they have every right to be pissed about it. Hamas on the other hand is religious extremst group aswell and they're indiscriminately murdering innocent civilians (as are the jewish extremists aswell) so I'm against them too. The only people I'm in favour here of are the millions of innocent civilians on the both sides who'd just want to be treated fairly and live peacefully.
So I'm biased yeah, but it's a bit more nuanced than that.
How about the PFLP?
Are they religious extremists too?
And what indiscriminate slaughter? And what do you define as a civilian? If you are illegally occupying territory and are expelled by force, you are not a civilian you are an occupier, a settler, a colonizer.
I'm not familiar with that organization so I can't comment on that. I assume they're not unless proven otherwise.
Attacking a music festival and murdering 260 unarmed civilians for example.
Even if I grant you that Israel is located on occupied land, that still doesn't make every Israeli an occupier because many of them were born there and had no say on the matter, and even if you count them as occupiers too I still don't think the optimal solution is to murder them.
That rave was not even in Israel, it was in land occupied after the establishment of the borders in 1948. I am sorry but if you go into an occupied country and attend a rave outside the largest open air prison in the world under protection of one of the most technologically advanced militaries in the world, and then get caught in the crossfire during a prison break I have zero sympathy for you.
I'm just curious. What's your solution to this conflict? You're now the dictator of the whole earth. What do you do?
I'm a white dude from California it's not my place to even make that decision. I mean no offense but this is the most lib response ever.
No their response was very reasonable to someone with strong opinions and beliefs on the manner but then throwing their hand up and being like uhh I dunno what I would do just what they are doing is wrong.
THAT is the most lib response ever lol.