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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Is it true he drowned in his jacuzzi? Really hard to believe

[–] [email protected] 107 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Stroke or heart attack (or shooting up after a long tolerance break) alone in a body of water has an immediate cause of death of drowning.

The cause of the immediate cause of death isn't known until autopsy.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Says it was after he was playing pickleball, so I'm guessing heart attack.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Heart attacks, if you mean infarctions, will still be quite rare in 50s, especially in someone who is able to play pickleball. I would also imagine his doctor would be unlikely to have missed signs of coronary artery disease.

I would guess it is more likely that he simply passed out for one reason or another since it was the middle of the night, he had played sports, potentially sleepy dehydrated and maybe even under the influence.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He's had a long history of drug abuse as well though, which can have some pretty bad long term effects.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

He could develop toxic cardiomyopathy, but it is not that acute, and while it can in late stages cause dangerous arrhythmias, which some would conflate under “heart attacks”, a cardiomyopathy that advanced would also mean he is out of breath climbing up a flight of stairs, so probably no pickleball.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They are saying no drugs or alcohol involved, so I'm guessing a few hours of strenuous exercise followed by jacuzzi = a heart attack while in the jacuzzi alone leading to drowning as the immediate cause of death, but triggered by the heart attack.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well I’m never getting in a hot tub again

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm just going to avoid the strenuous exercise part.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

If you don't train, then how will you win if your heart attacks you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He could have just got drunk and passed out. Mix in a sleep aid and it doesn't seem unlikely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

He could have been going all night.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

That's what's being reported

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Apparently his jacuzzi was massive, like the size of a small swimming pool.