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Google and major mobile carriers want Europe to regulate Apple's iMessage platform (www.engadget.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The long fight to make Apple's iMessage compatible with all devices has raged with little to show for it. But Google (de facto leader of the charge) and other mobile operators are now leveraging the European Union's Digital Market Act (DMA), according to the Financial Times. The law, which goes into effect in 2024, requires that "gatekeepers" not favor their own systems or limit third parties from interoperating within them. Gatekeepers are any company that meets specific financial and usage qualifications, including Google's parent company Alphabet, Apple, Samsung and others.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, because documentation as I'm referencing it is for accessing the API. You can't access iMessages API (Well without serious reverse engineering effort) so therefore they have no documentation

RCS is a standard, Google has it's flavor and Apple could just as easily have their own or any other flavor.

SMS is antiquated and should be used for nothing more than a fallback at best. It's 30+ years old.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I still don’t see that as any different. Apple has a proprietary implementation, google has an proprietary implementation. You like google because they have documentation. Neither is an open platform, yet you seem to be pushing google like it’s the bastion of open communication.

RCS is not standard, will not be standard and should not be standard.

SMS works perfectly fine. So what if it’s 30 years old. It still works exactly as intended.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't have to be open, just provide publicly accessible APIs so that apps can interconnect with it. Google provides this, Apple does not.

To be clear IDGAF about Google. I promote RCS and you can say it's not a standard, but it is. It's maintained by the GSM Association and they put out a universal profile that anyone can implement and extend just like Google did and Apple could easily do. They're just extending an existing standard.

Even in the Google messages app I can change the RCS backend servers at any time, you don't have to use Googles RCS implementation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Doesn’t everyone hate it when google extends APIs? Think it’s called EEE (embrace, extend, extinguish). They have a history of killing standards as soon as they have enough market share.

If you change off of googles servers you lose features. I’d consider that no longer an open platform. So despite not needing to use their implementation, if you want the modern features RCS is often advertised as having, you have to go through google. That’s not an open standard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

The only 2 features I'm aware of the you lose are e2ee and those sticker things, all other modern features in RCS are present in the Universal Profile and there's no reason that e2ee won't come to the Universal Profile in time.

Like I said I'm not enthralled that Google is the one bringing RCS to the US, but I prefer Google over the carriers (Who were supposed to do it in the first place)