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"Hamas’s broader plan [was] one that analysts say was intended not just to kill and capture Israelis, but to spark a conflagration that would sweep the region and lead to a wider conflict."

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Fair enough but I'll keep my reply short for now -

We all know agree that Hamas are terrorists. Of course I condemn the attack, but I don't expect terrorists to behave in a way I'm happy with.

But Israel holds far more power and has more options. They are the vastly superior entity by every metric. They are also a member of the United Nations, and can reasonably be expected to conduct themselves better than acknowledged terrorist groups. Israel had a great justification to respond to the attack. They don't have a justification for going as far as they are.

Quoting myself from earlier -

Hamas didn't change the discussion, Israel did. I came into the news on Oct 07 with "Fucking Hamas" vibes, but that very quickly changed to, "Wow OK, Israel isn't fucking around." then "Woah Israel OK, maybe use a little more care there, I get that you were attacked but -- WOAH ISRAEL WTF ARE YOU DOING?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah, that about hits my opinion, too.

"Israel has the right to defend itself", but their actions fly far in excess of defense at this point.