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[–] [email protected] 74 points 9 months ago (11 children)

That's because the COBOL OGs are retired/ing and the industry has been training young people telling them "yeah, sorry, this is all we can pay you". Here in Europe, they'll take unemployed people from a different industry, put them on a training course, and bang! you've got a grateful new dev who doesn't know how much they are worth.
You just gotta keep spreading the message. I keep happily sharing my salary, especially with younger, less experienced devs, so we can all win better.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (5 children)

A surprising number of people don't know about levels.fyi

Go to levels.fyi, find some companies and compare at your level. For a long time I was like "ain't no way these numbers are accurate, people are getting paid that much?" YES THE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE; your company's excuses for a shitty raise this year ("blah blah market conditions, blah blah you are already on the upper end of your band, let's work on a promotion next year") are bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sadly this doesn't include my profession (Industrial Automation). Do you know of other alternatives?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

You could try Glassdoor, but my understanding is that it's not as accurate as levels.

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