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Also putting quotes around "indigenous" to imply there's no settler colonial relation

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't care. Right and wrong aren't determined by sides. Israel has no right to any part of Palestine except might. If you want us to accept might is right then it is separate argument.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You are more than entitled to your opinion, I am simply informing you that it runs contrary to the concrete objectives set by both the Palestinian liberation movement and the Communist international movement as far as I am aware of them at this current time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The PLO doesn’t speak for all Palestinians. All Palestinians I have ever known reject the UN partition plan.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What organization or coalition speaks for all Palestinians that stands in antagonism to the PLO and reject the U.N partition plan?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They don’t have to be organized to have an opinion or a right. I don’t know what organization today can represent this. But Palestinians want to free all of Palestine not just their halfway state per UN plan.

The moral choice for anti imperialists should be a complete rejection of Zionism and the 2-state solution. Whether realistic or not shouldn’t be a question. The Palestinians may accept compromises today because the reality forced them to. The UN partition plan was forced on Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

With respect to your lived experiences, I simply no longer find this conversation fruitful as your statement is too amorphous for me to engage with it with the ernesty you deserve.

This concludes our conversation. May you go in peace.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.