Right but how do you measure the things around what you are trying to measure and get any data from it unless you expect them to also interact with the things you are measuring.

You have to have an interaction to measure even if you are measuring the outcome and steps away from the original interaction.

It's like measuring dark matter where the easiest way to prove it's existence was to wait and capture the decay of it but not the particle itself. But that means the particle was already gone when we got the measurements to prove it was there.