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[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (4 children)

"Shitty actual cab company" pays its drivers a fair wage. And they are often unionized.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Taxi_Workers%27_Alliance

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

I wish "illegal cab company" would too, but I also have no sympathy for shitty actual cab company. It's not even about the money for me, they had many chances to innovate their systems and squash the illegal cab companies before they got started while at the same time generating more fare revenue, but instead tried to use the status quo to smother out the competition.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They never seem to clean their cars though for some reason. That's one thing I'll give to Uber, the cars are cleaner.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I've never been in a dirty cab but cabs were never a big deal in my area so I'm not an expert.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

It's also more expensive where I live ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

EDIT: Sorry, my bad. I meant that Uber and Lyft are more expensive than normal cabs in my area.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes, because the drivers aren't being exploited like the Uber and Lyft drivers are. They offer cheaper fares because they're paid an unfair wage.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The trick is them unionising too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Then it’s gonna be the same price.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There’s a cost to everything. Taxis were already reasonably efficient. Enjoy your VC funded discount rides while you can

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I feel you’re under the impression that I share the GP point of view. I don’t. I live in a place where ride sharing apps are regulated and I’m thankful for it. Gig economy jobs can fuck right off.

That being said, it’s not cost that killed taxis and made Uber/Lyft appealing. It’s convenience. If the taxis had joined the modern era instead of being stuck in the 90s (including but not exclusively having a “broken” credit card machine and other dubious tactics), they’d probably have had a way better time. They were caught with their pants down and their head up their asses.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Oh yeah I know, rn the only thing keeping taxis alive is probably the fact that they have dedicated parking spots in some places, usually close to train stations and airports where they easily get business.

“Ride sharing” has also been regulated and now you do need to have the car identified (a crappy sticker on the windshields) and take a course (still cheaper and shorter than actual taxis)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Sorry, my bad. I meant that Uber and Lyft are more expensive than normal cabs in my area.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand comments like this. Where do you think those "savings" come from? Do you think the suits are like "yeah we're going to shut down our competition by reducing our own pay/cut of the revenue"? Or do you think they're going to fuck over the workers?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Sorry, my comment was unclear. I do agree, I meant Ubers being more expensive for whatever reason...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Doing things right costs money. "Ride share" companies are only cheaper because they screw over their drivers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And that’s what those illegal cab companies bank on people thinking.

Is it a bit more expensive? Yes. Is it waaaaaaay less exploitative than Uber and Lyft? Fuuuuuuuuck yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

See my edit :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sorry, but Taxis have left me waiting for hours and ripped me off 1 too many times on top of every cab I've been in has been quite dirty. They tried using their near-monopolistic position in most places to ignore basic innovations, like having an app to request a taxi (and having that app not look like it's a time capsule from 2008) or even taking card.

I have no sympathy for taxis, they're dead to me