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The California governor has been trying to get his Florida Republican counterpart to engage. On Wednesday, he got it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Isn't that the most significant part of trump's personality, too? Trump just also has the indictments and history of losing.

Personally, my parents are lifetime Republicans and are looking to vote for anyone that's not Trump, because they see him as a distraction that is hard to portray as "better than the libs," especially since they are nominally Christian.

So I think there's a decent chance of DeSantis pulling at least a 5-10% of conservatives away from Trump.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

DeSantis certainly started off as a strong contender, but he drank his own koolaid and commited the Cardinal Sin of actually attempting to make good on his promises which, surprise surprise, turned out not to have very good results.

We hate wokeness! Therefore, I'm going to get into a war with the woke single most powerful corporation in my home state, which has far more monetary and legal weight than all my donors combined!

We hate the LGBTQ+! Therefore, I am going to implement agressive anti-LGBTQ+ laws that will make massive swaths of people feel unsafe in Florida and essentially annhialate the tourism industry that fuels most of the state's GDP!

We hate immigrants! Therefore, I am going to push through policies that essentially force all immigrants out of Florida and decimate any local businesses or industries that were relliant on the cheap labor!!

For as much harm as Trump did, for a lot of real policy-making, he was either: mostly playing politics with the shit he "was trying to do", was contained by other politicians enough not to actually implement them, or was too incompetent to actually make his plans a functional reality. Actually kinda funny to think how much of a threat for dems DeSantis seemed just a couple of years ago as the "more calculating and insidious" version of Trump.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DeSantis stealing Trump votes requires him to run as an independent. If he loses the primary and doesn't go independent, all those votes just go back to Trump. I haven't heard anything about an independent run from him, but I might have just missed something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't know if DeSantis would run as an independent, but I do know that my parents would vote for him if he did, especially since they live in CA where they're convinced their views in presidential elections don't make a bit of difference. I absolutely guarantee that Trump would run as an independent if he doesn't get the nomination, since admitting defeat gracefully is not something he is able to do.

Plus, we just need more people thinking DeSantis has a chance before the primaries and the situation for the RNC gets even more muddled

Edit: plus, Republicans getting upset or ambivalent about the nominee is a sure way to depress voter turnout, so the more infighting, the better for Democrats, even if DeSantis doesn't run as an independent

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Definitely. I was hoping that DeSantis would just barely sneak by Trump in the primaries so Trump would have to run independent, and spoil the vote. It was extreme wishful thinking, but we all gotta dream, right?