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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The West's sanctions on Russia since February 2022 have been one of the greatest self-owns in human history.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Literally the only one who better at this besides Russia was the USA, cannibalizing European industry and exporting natural gas at exorbitant prices.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm beginning to wonder if that wasn't the US's goal with the sanctions all along? They were less concerned about "stopping Russia" and more concerned about making their European vassals more dependent on them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

why not both? stopping Russia from further ingratiating into the European supply chain and subsequently forcing them to rely on the US are two wings of the same bird to me

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just love how the whole thing was premised on chauvinism where they took it for granted that backwards Russians couldn't figure out how to operate these businesses without the enlightened west. This is what happens when people start getting high on their own supply.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Straight out of the Nazi Germany playbook. Sometimes I wonder whether the ruling class of the west genuinely thinks of the non-west as untermensch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not just the ruling class, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It is fortunate for China, Russia, etc that the West underestimates them and has no interest to learn about them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I think they must. They need to justify their atrocities and subjugation somehow. What better way to do that than to insist they are "inferiors" who "deserve it"?

And we often see leadership in the EU accidentally saying the quiet part out loud quite a bit as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I think it's exactly that, the policy towards Russia and China really does seem to be rooted in the idea that they're just not able to develop on their own.