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[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago (17 children)

It's a really interesting thread. Cities are great, suburb & rural can be great and transit is great. 15 minute cities are great goals, but it's not a one size fits all situation. I can't figure out how they think these utopian 15 minute cities would work if they don't have a working transit built in. It's so weird, do they think handicapped people can bike and walk everywhere or don't exist? Do they think parents love sending their kids down the block to play by themselves instead of the backyard? Their choices aren't going to make sense for a ton of people. They're either right out of school or trolling, I can't tell which.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It’s so weird, do they think handicapped people can bike and walk everywhere or don’t exist?

As a handicapped person myself, it really baffles me how people think car oriented infrastructure is so much better for us. I am a wheelchair user, and I live in a 15 minute neighborhood. Getting around in my wheelchair is a million times simpler there than in my old car-centric suburb, because the same disabilities that make me wheelchair bound also prevent me from driving. Which mean that in a car-centric environment I do one of the following:

a) Rely on the generosity of friends and family to cart me around at their convenience, or b) Utilize shared access rides, which are door to door, but take longer than using public transit, or c) Roll myself to underserved suburban bus stops over badly maintained sidewalk, and pray I make it on time.

None of which are appealing.

Meanwhile, in my 15 minute city:

  • The buses often run at 10 to 15 minute intervals (vs 30 to 60 minutes in the suburb),
  • Sidewalks are larger
  • I have less distance to travel in the first place
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And you're not blind and don't have a caretaker I assume.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Correct on both counts.

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