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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dutch managed it, why wouldn’t the chinese, with a centrally planned economy that can directly integrate the different disciplines, be able to?

  • Dutch didn't, not alone, far from that. Have a stab at the first link I posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmgkV83OhHA

  • This will also show a long list of "honorable mentions" who failed, including the Japanese attempts (which, as you should know, aren't exactly new to the game, way ahead of China and largely self-reliant in the matter, unlike China whose semiconductors industry has been centered around import of foreign tech)

  • I didn't write that they "wouldn't be able to", I merely pointed the actual reasons why this is extremely hard (perhaps the hardest current Engineering feat, or why I find this whole thing fascinating), with speculations that this will take a while

for the sake of progress instead of making money?

no need to stretch it: if China wants to meet the ever growing domestic demand (either military or civil), China need fabs churning chips reliably. Simple as that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Dutch didn't, not alone, far from that.

As opposed to the chinese, who are completely alone, all 1.whatever billion of them.

which are[...]largely self-reliant in the matter

You just fucking said it required cooperation you dumb cum juggler, now you're saying they failed despite not cooperating?

I didn't write that they "wouldn't be able to"

I cannot sufficiently describe how much I hate your stupid reddit tier "um, akshumally I didn't use those exact words therefore you're completely misrepresenting what I said!" You won't shut up about how hard and difficult and borderline impossible it is and you want me to believe you're not trying to say they won't be able to? You're certainly not arguing that they will.

if China wants to meet the ever growing domestic demand (either military or civil), China need fabs churning chips reliably.

That's not what commercially viable mean, buddy.