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Politicians from Germany’s AfD met extremist group to discuss deportation ‘masterplan’
(www.theguardian.com)
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Germany, we've been over this.
No you haven't that's the thing, the amount of Nazis that didn't get put on trial speaks volumes about the real reason for the war. There was a show trial for the Nazis that the allies had no use for and just finger wagging afterwards.
One of the greatest failures of both past and current administrations. The reason a majority of Nazis weren't put on trial was simply: If they had, every single structure would have fallen apart, because they were in every level of administration, etc. There simply - from the perspective of the allies - weren't any people that could replace these structures adequately. So they didn't pursue. Same with the 2008 financial crisis. A single banker got charged. Why? Because they would have had to fully dismantle every established system to really root out the people responsible, because they're so interconnected. Stabilizing the shit ass system was a priority over seeking justice.
It always will be, if the infestation just spreads far and deep enough. Which is becoming a real concern again.
I've seen this claim before and at best its only a half truth. I can't give a full write up unfortunately but a lot of top Nazis and SS members were given cover to settle elsewhere or used to agitate against the Soviet Union. Some were useful, like engineers or other academic Nazis, others were useful because they could be trusted to be anticommunist and still others had useful contacts in parts of the world the US had little to no influence in.
It's not a half truth, it's a full truth. Doesn't mean your statements are untrue or mutually exclusive. There were certainly Nazis being used and recruited directly into other services on the end of the allies, no doubt. US rocket development is a great example on that.
But I am talking about the majority of just the basic German administration, public, medical, engineering and civil servants, and just the people in general. That's hundreds of thousands of jobs and structures that simply couldn't be replaced but also wasn't filled with the brightest and smartest super suited to the things you're talking about. It wasn't just the SS and top brass that were Nazis. It went through and through the entire society. And you really cannot simply throw these kinds of people in jail without having replacements ready. Up to 45 million Germans were part of Nazi organizations and thus affiliated with the ruling party that had been overthrown.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification
There were simply too many, so prosecution was deemed impossible at scale. It's a really interesting process, but the allies tried, but it lead to problems
If we are talking about why most of the Nazis weren't put on trial the reason "they were in administration" is only half the truth as a lot of Nazis weren't put on trial because the US had a use for them or because they just didn't care enough. I mean look at how the Soviets approached denazification and how the US did. East Germany was a lot more thorough than west germany.
As an example SS members were allowed entry to Canada who had a very strict "no communists" immigration policy and their SS tattoos actually proved to be an advantage to prove that.
Can we just give you the AFD-Party and their fellows, and you nuremberg-trial them again? I would even chip in for the rope!
Jokes aside. They are a threat to German Democracy and need to be stopped. I just wish our Government would FINALLY initiate the Process of getting them banned. We have laws in place for that! All we need to do now is to start the Process. Then the Federal Constitutional Court can look into it and decide if they get banned. BUT FOR WHAT EVER REASON our Government shies away from that.
Unfortunately, I don't thunk it will go over the same this time. The ideology has crossed borders.
In comparison to the 30s and 40s when far right extremism was famously an exclusively German phenomenon