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In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn't feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (43 children)

All of the features listed rely on external services and servers. I think it's completely fair to put them behind a subscription. This example isn't like the seat warmer subscription where you unlock hardware.

If you don't like subscriptions, don't buy them. You can still drive your car without all of this extra crap.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (14 children)

looking through that list fully half are internal only , or tied to the remote that comes with the vehicle. no 3rd party required.

i understand all the cellular-required bits.. 'find my car'... but remote start? my brand new vehicle has remote start with no subscription.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think the remote start is through the Kia app, not the remote. I would imagine the idea is you can turn on the car and turn on the heat when it is cold outside so you can stay in your home a little bit longer.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

yeah, the last 2 cars ive bought had this. no subscription, no app, and it works fine from the very nice remote that is also the key. maybe kia just sucks

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

By removing the feature from the remote and moving it to an app they turn a cost of a more complex remote into a profit of constant subscription money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

In the winter I'd remote start my car from the top floor and even I got to the bottom my car would be heated; their remote start uses server time.

Now if they charged me to use the remote start from my keys, that'd be a different story.

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