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[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That’s fairly idealist of you to claim that.

Why is it idealist? Three reasons:

First of all, the means of production, (and through which we can sustain the population density in the states) is industry. Without industry, farms will not be able to generate enough yield to sustain our population density.

Secondly, suppose that a revolution happens, and the American experiment is ended. Will the workers and the people who have revolted, agree to give the means of production to the aboriginals, essentially placing them as a new ruling class? It would be against working class interests.

Thirdly, human society will organize themselves in response to material conditions. In the case of the capture or gifting of the industrial mode of production to the aboriginals, the previously equitable aboriginals will reorganize themselves to for a new capitalist class.

A more equitable solution is to have aboriginals take part in the revolution and subsequently collectively own the land and means of production alongside the working class.

Racial and other hierarchies are developed in response to not just capitalism, but rather property, the defence of property, and the conquest of properties. As it is, whiteness is just another word for the capitalist class, as representative for the ruling hierarchical class. For example, Obama is white.

So, to get rid of whiteness, you must change/reorganize our current mode of production. (A la Lenin) But to have enough bargaining power to do that, you must organize across all the intersections.

And how do we do that? By focusing on our common interests, organizing around our common interests, and fighting for our common interests. How do we not do that? By focusing on our differences and hiding the capitalist contradiction through arguing about the contradiction between intersections.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

National liberation comes first, if you think you can ignore Native people and the descendants of slaves brought here against their will you're going to have an extremely bad time trying to build a cohesive revolution in the US.