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Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don't come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don't really get upset by it IRL

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

And the context is completely different. To get meat, you have to kill or harm an animal. There's no wiggle room there.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

How is it?

Edit to address your edit: Still the same argument anti-abortionists use.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I edited my comment after I made it, but you have to kill an animal to get meat. There's no debate around fetal development or rights of the mother vs. the child. There's no religion involved. If you argue that torturing or killing animals doesn't hurt them, you're arguing in bad faith. Even people who eat meat won't deny it. They just don't care. You could just as easily frame vegans as the abortion activists surrounded by anti-abortion folks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m saying that what you are saying is the same as anti-abortionists saying that abortion is murder.

It’s not going to convince anyone who doesn’t think the exact same as you on the subject because it relies on beliefs that not everyone has.

How would you frame the vegans as the pro-choice activists in your hypothetical situation?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We're arguing for the rights of animals over the rights of people who want to take them away. I just told you there's no debate that killing an animal is killing an animal. How do you disagree with that? I never said 'murder', that's trying to muddy the waters. The abortion debate is about whether or not abortion is killing a living being. Slaughtering animals is objectively so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You didn’t address a single thing I brought up in my last comment.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what point you're trying to make. The same argument applied to different contexts is perfectly valid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

That is the problem, you aren’t understanding what I’m saying or even trying to.