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The students who were arrested and sent to jail reported to the two staff members afterwards who then reported to a reporter. All of this is third-person and we need more sources other than the students themselves.
Everyone who leaves jail complains about how poor the treatment was. Just about everyone embellishes and lies a little. Let's not pretend that every protester is innocent: they vandalized and destroyed school property and spent a few hours in jail. They can now go back to protesting peacefully because it is their right.
Edit: are we really pretending that a student isn't an adult? Why is the article singling out that they were in general population? They are adults and not children, right? Where are they supposed to put grown adult college students? Student jail? Did they seriously expect to be treated differently because this just sounds like they have never been to jail and are surprised to find out just how poorly prisoners are treated in this country.
Edit 2: Gosh, we really don't like painting out that they were privileged University students that have probably never seen a jail cell and probably just didn't want to eat the shitty jail food. I wouldn't have eaten it either tbh.
Protests against Vietnam war destroyed far more shit. This is like the least shit destroying protest in history.
Pointless vandalism is still pointless, but at least the antiwar protests in the US were by US citizens and were primarily about opposition to US involvement in the conflict.
These protesters have unrealistic expectations and goals. Just look at the divesting demands. Due to their age, very few of these college kids understand the reality of where the money they want divested is/going/coming from. Direct investments rarely reflect the full scope of a college's portfolio.
Trespassing, vandalism, and yelling at people is far easier that learning about economics I guess.
Funny how the divesting demands are working at several schools thus far, and funny how the violence and vandalism seem to only be happening at schools that decided to send the ~~jackbooted thugs~~ Police in to crack skulls and beat people for wrongthink.
Weird how you have completely omitted the polices typical escalation and unnecessary violence from your whinging and denigration of these "kids"
User name checks out because this isn't the flex you think it is.
Only one college, Evergreen State College, has "agreed" so far to divest any holdings linked with Israel. A few others, like Brown and Northwestern University, have simply said that they will disclose their investment exposure to Israel at a later time.
And Evergreen's memorandum that was released by the school simply stated that the student encampment will end in exchange for the school looking into its investments and possibly divesting from Israel. ONCE MORE: Looking into & possibly divesting
These are what they call stall tactics.
And stop pretending the protestors didn't spray paint free gaza, free palestine and intifada this and that all over the walls in the library. That's pointless vandalism, not protesting.
How were they supposed to inform someone while being in a fucking jail cell?
Of course they can only report things afterwards.
First, the point is that the only information comes from the same students that were arrested.
Secondly, would it surprise you that everyone in jail has access to a phone?
Would it surprise you to know that that isn’t true and phone privileges are easily revoked.
This isn’t the movies, you aren’t entitled to a phone call
It is obvious that you truly have no idea what you are talking about nor have you been inside of a NY jail in any capacity. The police dont keep people from making phone calls, despite your this isnt the movies line of reasoning. It isn't a conspiracy to silence the protestors, I promise. I'm also sure they would have reported on that so we know they weren't prevented from making phone calls due to any security reason.
As to your statement, yes, phones calls are subject to reasonable restrictions related to security but, No, they don't arbitrarily prevent you from using a phone. There are actual phone kiosks in NYC jails. Hell, all jail phone calls have been free since 2019 (Intro 0741, pass by NYC council) from 7am to 11pm.
Then there is New York State Assembly Bill 2023-A6484that allows inmates in state and local correctional facilities to make free, confidential phone calls to attorneys and legal service providers.
Furthermore, Chapter 11-A, Part 2, Title H, Article 120, Section 90, Subsection 8 of New York Criminal Procedural Law is the literal law that entitles anyone arrested in the state of New York to communicate by phone. (Link)
In New York, if you arrested or detained, you are legally entitled to a phone call. But please, go ahead and argue.