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Self-Driving Tesla Nearly Hits Oncoming Train, Raises New Concern On Car's Safety (www.ibtimes.co.uk)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Craig Doty II, a Tesla owner, narrowly avoided a collision after his vehicle, in Full Self-Driving (FSD) mode, allegedly steered towards an oncoming train.

Nighttime dashcam footage from earlier this month in Ohio captured the harrowing scene: Doty's Tesla rapidly approaching a train with no apparent deceleration. He insisted his Tesla was in Full Self-Driving mode when it barreled towards the train crossing without slowing down.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

As someone with more than a basic understanding of technology and how self driving works, I would think the end user would take special care driving in fog since the car relies on cameras to identify the roads and objects. This is clearly user error.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

This is clearly user error.

When it's been advertised to the user as "full self driving", is it?

Furthermore, the car can't recognize the visibility is low and alert the user and/or refuse to go into self driving?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

When it's been advertised to the user as "full self driving", is it?

I wouldn't believe an advertisement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't trust Musk with my life either.

But, presumably, we have moved beyond the age of advertising snake oil and miracle cures; advertisements have to be somewhat factual.

If a user does as is advertised and something goes wrong I do believe it's the advertiser who is liable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But, presumably, we have moved beyond the age of advertising snake oil and miracle cures and advertisements have to be somewhat factual.

Keyword presumably.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Right. But can you blame the user for trusting the advertisement?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

At the dealership? Kinda, yeah, it's a dealership and news like this pop up every week.

On the road? I wouldn't trust my life to any self-driving in this day and age.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

problem is most people do. anybody remember watch dogs?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

There are many quite loud alerts when FSD is active in subpar circumstances about how it is degraded, and the car will slow down. That video was pretty foggy, I'd say the dude wasn't paying attention.

I came up on a train Sunday evening in the dark, which I hadn't had happen in FSD, so I decided to just hit the brakes. It saw the crossing arms as blinking stoplights, probably wouldn't have stopped?

Either way that dude was definitely not paying attention.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Lol

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