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Whatever Harris did as a prosecutor seems reasonable given both the context of the time she during which was a prosecutor, and her overall political alignment. I would rather have a progressive presidential candidate like Bernie (too late), or AOC (maybe 2028 or later). But choosing Harris means that the overall “liberal” agenda stays on the table

Some highlights from the article

Harris, as part of her previous presidential campaign, also released a criminal justice reform plan that seeks to scale back incarceration, end the death penalty and solitary confinement, ban private prisons, and get rid of cash bail. Biden also backs a fairly aggressive criminal justice reform plan, despite his own mixed record on criminal justice issues.

A close examination of Harris’s record shows it’s filled with contradictions. She pushed for programs that helped people find jobs instead of putting them in prison, but also fought to keep people in prison even after they were proved innocent. She refused to pursue the death penalty against a man who killed a police officer, but also defended California’s death penalty system in court. She implemented training programs to address police officers’ racial biases, but also resisted calls to get her office to investigate certain police shootings.

But what seem like contradictions may reflect a balancing act. Harris’s parents worked on civil rights causes, and she came from a background well aware of the excesses of the criminal justice system — but in office, she played the role of a prosecutor and California’s lawyer. She started in an era when “tough on crime” politics were popular across party lines — but she rose to national prominence as criminal justice reform started to take off nationally. She had an eye on higher political office as support for criminal justice reform became de rigueur for Democrats — but she still had to work as California’s top law enforcement official.

Harris also pushed for more systemic reforms. Her most successful program as district attorney, “Back on Track,” allowed first-time drug offenders, including drug dealers, to get a high school diploma and a job instead of prison time. Adams, Harris’s previous spokesperson, noted that the program started in 2005, “when most prosecutors were using a ‘tough on crime’ approach.”

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

She isn’t remotely progressive. There’s a long list of very problematic stuff she did while AG which the other commentator covered in part but there’s also:

-She’s a blatant supporter of Israel's Genocide

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The other guys wants to “deport” every single illegal immigrant.

Apparatus like that, once set up, usually finds applications which weren’t in the planning documents when they were presented for public consumption.

Honestly? Harris is not my favorite pick. But pretending that voting against Trump needs some kind of evaluation against the other alternative is pure poppycock.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nowhere in my comment did I suggest Trump would be better, he clearly wouldn’t be. I was replying to someone saying she’s progressive showing she isn’t.

Right now is the time to try and steer support to candidates we want to get the nomination. After the nomination you won’t see me posting as critically.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who is your alternative?

I think an alternative at all is unlikely, although if one that were realistic came along, I’d be fuckin thrilled

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Going off candidates that that may have a chance given the short window, Whitmer or AOC would be much better to me.

I’m much further left but willing to compromise to stop trump but need to see some material change to our policy on Israel. We can’t just keep giving a genocidal government weapons and funding and acting like we have no leverage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

So… Ralph Nader actually went into this a little bit. He was disgusted with the left for agreeing to vote ahead of time for Biden without even trying to form any kind of a pressure bloc to demand concessions in terms of better humanity in Gaza. I feel you.

I can’t possibly see what you can demand from Harris though, materially. She’s not in charge. Her priorities, until January 6th, are Biden’s priorities. And anything you do to try to pressure her for announcing better policies on Israel is flirting with fucking it up and Trump getting in and just giving Israel approval to go in and kill the other 90% of the Palestinians and open beachfront property and no “ceasefire” or “weapons pause” or any of Biden’s milquetoast resistance on the table at all.

Idk. It’s not even certain that she can win. Weakening her even more in service of the Palestinians I think has an excellent chance of killing a whole bunch more Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

counterpunch has extreme left bias according to media bias fact check site

Though professing to support a two-state solution, Harris has repeatedly refused to make any distinction between criticisms of the Israeli occupation and colonization in the West Bank and attacks on Israel itself.

That doesn't prove in ANY WAY that she is a blatant supporter of genocide, jesus fucking christ.

Harris has repeatedly refused to make any distinction between criticisms of the Israeli occupation

an easily proven lie

that article even quotes the intercept

Unlike some of her counterparts in the Senate, she has not publicly made any demands of Israel or Netanyahu regarding the human rights of Palestinians.

and yet: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-vp-harris-urges-israeli-government-do-more-boost-aid-into-gaza-2024-03-03/

** U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris bluntly called out Israel on Sunday for not doing enough to ease a "humanitarian catastrophe" in Gaza as the Biden administration faces increasing pressure to rein in its close ally while it wages war with Hamas militants.**

Harris, speaking in front of the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama, where state troopers beat U.S. civil rights marchers nearly six decades ago, called for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza and urged Hamas to accept a deal to release hostages in return for a 6-week cessation of hostilities. But she directed the bulk of her comments at Israel in what appeared to be the sharpest rebuke yet by a senior leader in the U.S. government over the conditions in the coastal enclave.

"People in Gaza are starving. The conditions are inhumane and our common humanity compels us to act," Harris said at an event to commemorate the 59th anniversary of "Bloody Sunday" in Alabama. "The Israeli government must do more to significantly increase the flow of aid. No excuses," Harris said. Her comments reflected intense frustration, if not desperation, within the U.S. government about the war, which has hurt President Joe Biden with left-leaning voters as he seeks re-election this year.

oh but she totally is blatantly supporting the genocide!!!!

edit: yes, downvote me for bringing you inconvenient truths that don't fall within your little narrative.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

She’s a part of the administration that hasn’t stopped weapon shipments to the country committing the genocide. It doesn’t matter if she has given some meaningless lines on the tragedy going on if there’s been next to nothing done to stop it.

She with Biden came out and said the US will not impose conditions on support for Israel. The country committing the genocide. How is that not blatant support?

Between that, her ties to AIPAC I don’t see how anyone can say she’ll be a meaningful improvement. Sorry to tell you “inconvenient truths that don’t fall within your little narrative”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

MBFC also rates the Jerusalem Post as credible, which anyone who's read the Post for any significant amount of time knows is a lie.