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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Bro sexually assaulted an intern in the White House. Let's not pretend it was just sex life.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

No it was clearly an official duty as defined circa 2024

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

He did not sexually assault Monica Lewinsky. It was a consensual relationship. He was accused of lying about it in a deposition. That was the alleged crime.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be clear about what happened - she did say (maybe about ten years ago, post me- too), that she realizes Clinton took advantage of her. That doesn't change her opinion overall that it was consensual, but she recognizes the power imbalance played a role in what she did.

That's the part being pointed out by the other commenter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She was absolutely taken advantage of. At best, the whole thing is unseemly. But there is a very large gap between "sexually assaulted" and being taken advantage of.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's the debatable part. Given the absolutely massive power imbalance, can it be consensual?

From my perspective, I think it's important to take Ms. Lewinsky's opinion and consider it to not be sexual assault, she's had about 30 years of reflection on it and where she landed is consensual.

But I can understand, given the power imbalance and how that has been used historically to force others into a sexual relationship, how it can be viewed as sexual assault.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would agree except for the fact that she actively pursued him. He didn't just pick her out of a crowd. She made it a point to be near him. He should have known better than to go there but she initiated the whole thing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Expert manipulators and sexual predators are very good at using power imbalances to make people think they want this and pursue it, when i fact they are manipulated into making advances.

Now whether that was the case is debatable, but there is no blanket "she wanted it" check to hand out here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's a hard one to delineate though. Is any sexual contact with the President of the United States consensual? Can the President only get a reach around from Xi Jinping?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can the President only get a reach around from Xi Jinping?

Oh my! I just had a disturbing mental image.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Brother what do you think they do behind those closed doors at executive summits. It sure as hell ain't anything regarding policy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Lololol whatever you need to tell yourself.

Most powerful man in America is getting head from a 22 year old in office who had come out afterwards and said she was pressured and it was unwanted but your going to go to bat.

But grab her by the pussy is just locker room talk 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

So you're certain that her own account of it is a lie? How progressive