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Trump Cryptically Declares, ‘You Won’t Have to Vote Anymore’ If He Wins Second Term
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Your country is insane.
In any other democratic nation in the world, a politician saying this would be finished.
I hope for the sake of humanity that all the sane people in the US go out and tells everyone they know that cares about democracy and the rule of law what Trump is planning to do, especially in the swing states.
Our country is full of proudly ignorant bootlickers
Turns out all you need to do is make up some bullshit about "American dreams" and "bootstraps," make them believe they too can (and probably already should!) be a billionaire, and the one thing stopping that are those goddamn Marxist Democrats and their "progressive taxation," and "social safety nets for the blacks (please ignore the fact that I'm on disability, it's different)".
Republicans have been sabotaging our country's own public education system for 25+ years at this point. Selling the future prosperity of our nation down the river for a voter-base with cult-like devotion, and a unique ability to ignore objective reality.
Unfortunately for the planet, it seems to have been wildly successful.
The next step is to do away with democracy altogether.
It’s been the Koch brothers and the John Birch Society’s dream (amongst others) to propagandize so many people of the “American Dream” and evils of anything other than capitalism. They were ecstatic when the Tea Party movement worked out for them, but they lost control of it with Trump. It’s a monster of their own making.
*other than WHAT THEY CALL capitalism
They look at monopolies where the market leader buys laws, lobbies for protection and muscles competition out of the game unhindered and then they decry anybody calling it out as communists or socialists or the devil or whatever other bad word is en vogue that day.
The craziest part is that, even with the absolute insanity this election has already been (and it will absolutely get worse), I'm seriously worried there's going to be a worse turnout than 2020. 30% of voters are holding the country hostage, but another 30+% still can't be bothered to get out and do the most basic thing they can do to fix it. It's absurd. The nutjobs in the US are dragging the country to the gallows, but apathetic voters are tying the noose.
2020 had the highest voter turnout in any US election. Donald Trump got more votes in 2020 (more than 74 million) than any other Presidential candidate, winner or loser, in history.... except for Joe Biden in 2020, who got 81 million.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election
I hate to break it to you, but it's not just our country.
It may be the most successful example of indoctrination of parts of the populace of a supposedly developed nation by the ruling class though.
Right, Russia is fucked too
This is lemmy, the goal is always to shit on America.
Probably because it's one of the worst examples of many bad things. Source: am American. The only way you can avoid criticizing America as a thinking person is to focus on the ways it's a little better than other countries. For example we mostly have clean drinking water while other countries don't. But if you for a moment focus back on America itself it's hard not to find things that just damned well ought to be better. Never be sick in America. Our healthcare is a pathetic piece of shit!
About the clean drinking water, the first world countries all have it though
I realize that. I should've said that some countries don't have clean drinking water. For me it has been shocking when I've experienced that because I'm "spoiled" by safe water most places I've ever visited.
The thing is that for any single positive item many people thing of being exceptional for the US, the truth is that most other countries in the 1st world are on par or better. I mean I heard Americans wonder if Germans have access to running water, that was in 2023.
I've got no problem with reasonable criticism of America. In fact I have many of my own. My issue is that here, shitting on America is well received regardless almost completely regardless of how reasonable it is.
Hmm, I don't see that. I can't remember the last time I saw an undeserved criticism of America. But I would agree with you if I did see that
Nayib Bukele, a pretty blatant authoritarian, just won an election in El Salvador. And have you been paying attention to the rise in right wing authoritarians winning in Europe?
The idea that this is isolated to the us makes no sense.
At what point did I or anyone say right wing authoritarianism is exclusive to the US? ....
Literally the top level post is complaining that any blatant authoritarian would be dead in the water in any other democracy.
Ok well I was responding to the person saying the US gets unfairly criticized all the time. That is all I remember. It's not always easy to see what was said 9 levels up in the thread even if I'm not distracted by other things in life...
I can see how one would not remember a thing ever happening if they can't even remember it happening in a comment they had to have read no more than a minute earlier.
When I tag people in certain ways, I often try to ignore that context and give them another chance at a normal human conversation. It is uncanny how often they randomly prove again that yes they are exactly in fact how I originally judged them. That other time was not a one off or a bad day they were having.
I could have been more kind, but you responded sarcastically when I pointed out that what I was talking about had just happened, basically trying to shift blame from yourself instead of just apologizing or admitting that I might have a point. You even kind of implied that because I remember the context, I don't have a life because your life distracts you from remembering what happens from post to post.
If this is how you typically treat people you're giving a second chance, it's no surprise that they respond in kind.
What a fucking victim. None of this is in touch with what I said or meant. There wasn't sarcasm, I implied nothing about you other than you might be a stickler to expect me to scroll up and click several buttons to confirm I'm on the same page every time someone responds to tell me I'm wrong.
Also I have plenty of positive interactions, sometimes even with people who previously weren't nice. It's just unfortunately memorable when people are such dicks.
Exactly, you're trying to shift the blame away from yourself; it's my fault for being a stickler, not yours for not even bothering to make sure your point was disproved already in the short thread we're in.
Look, I don't blame you for me responding in kind. That's my own doing and I know I should be better about it. But you're projecting the victim mentality: you're blaming me for pointing out that my point had been made. You're making this whole negative interaction my fault for being a dick.
Pointing out flaws instead of blindly shouting "murka numbuh wun!" is not a bad thing...
100% agreed. But that's not what I'm talking about. People just mindlessly shit on America here all the time. Just because I recognize the unreasonable American hate does not mean I'm an unreasonable American supporter. Not every is simple and black and white how you would like it.
Is that how I would like it? I guess that is a thing I learned about myself today! Neat.
“I’m the normal one, everyone around me is crazy!!!!”
Well, first, judging what's right based on what's popular is dumb on it's own, but it's even more dumb here because the up vote/down vote is current equal for my post, making it clearly not "everyone."
Unfortunately not anymore, no. Bolsonaro (luckily voted out) and Orban and the Polish potato (also luckily voted out) have been spouting similar bullshit for 10+ years. Also, Erdoğan talks bullshit like that.
All of them a little less incoherent than the fat orange turd, but still, they say this kind of bullshit.
in any other democratic nation, he would have been finished in 2015, when the "grab'em by the pussy" tape came out
but no, it's 2024 and we STILL have to waste time arguing about drag queens and library books
To this day, I will never know how it didn’t end the moment he made fun of that photographer who had the deformity on his arm.
the list of things that should have ended trump is too long for any comment, so here https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/donald-trump-worst-president-ever
You don't say! I simply hadn't noticed! What's so crazy about people voting for someone with no experience whatsoever except for being a rich asshole which he proved every second breath? I mean that's just normal!!