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US Democrats have spent recent days trying out a relatively new attack line on Donald Trump: that he is weird. The tactic is almost certainly calibrated to resonate with young and independent voters who, polls show, are moving from marked disinterest in the now-dropped matchup between Joe Biden and his presidential predecessor to engagement in the 100-day contest between Trump and Kamala Harris.

In a press release Thursday, vice-president and presumptive Democratic nominee Kamala Harris issued a list of the main takeaways of what Trump had given the American people. “Is Donald Trump OK?” the X message said. The seventh of nine entries was: “Trump is old and quite weird?”

At a fundraising event in Massachusetts on Saturday, Harris tried out the line again, describing what Trump and running mate JD Vance had been saying about her as “just plain weird”.

“I mean that’s the box you put that in,” Harris said after Trump had called her “a bum” the previous day and Vance disparaged her in 2021 as a “childless cat (lady)”.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd like to see something to address his wannabe dictator tendencies

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

there are SO many things they could attack, and they choose "let's call him weird"

i get more annoyed the more i think about it

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

It does make a little sense, when you consider that one of the goals is to demotivate fascists from voting at all.

Straight facts don't dissuade fascists. They have every argument and deflection in their back pocket ready to go. Trump is a rapist/racist/traitor? Fake news, fake news, fake news.

But... Trump is weird? That hits them right in the ego. They're not a principled policy-based voting base, it's a cult of personality. Even if they want to say he's NOT weird, it's not a fact, it's an opinion. So all it takes is showing a bunch of really strange gaffes, irrelevant rants, and incoherent ramblings, and you just might get would-be Trump voters to feel too embarrassed to vote for him.

It's a long shot, but based on what I've been seeing, it appears to be effective so far. We'll have to wait and see.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

My guess is Harris' polling of the younger demographic is showing they're fed up with the vicious rhetoric that's been bounced around. So words that don't cut most people - but would annoy the hell out of Trump - are used ... if for no other reason than it becomes this joke that can be laughed at vs. enraging people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe your annoyance (understandable) is part of the point? There are so many things to attack, so many legitimate concerns, that simply calling him weird could spark a little reflection in his supporters and would-be voters, let alone the obvious shock to Trump's vanity.

It's not something you can easily deny as a conspiracy theory or fake news or any other excuse about his words and behavior. The man is weird. And psychologically, I think it's harder to defend a person described that way, or at least makes a defender get a little self-conscious. Trump being deemed weird is really indefensible, and I think it could work in deflating the cult of personality around him.

Not everyone can identify maniacal dictator rhetoric for what it is, and the power dynamic is clearly alluring to Trump supporters. However, knowing a weird person or even being called weird at some point is something almost everyone has experience with. It's uncomfortable. It makes you ask yourself what it is about a person that makes them weird. I think they're on to something here. It might give supporters pause and will most definitely give Trump a complex.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry, I just don't see it. If, 10+ years later you don't already fucking know this guy is "weird" (to say the least), then hearing (more) Democrats say it won't change your mind about anything.

Have you met these people? They embraced the term "deplorable" because they thought it was cute/clever.

10 years of telling my parents in various ways that this man is "weird" (among many other, much worse, things), and suddenly they're gonna give a shit because Kamala Harris said it? Nah.

This is weak shit from the Democrats. Disappointed but not at all surprised.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I get where you're coming from, and you make a point with "deplorable" being meme-ified into some twisted identity thing. But I also think the collective "basket of deplorables" doesn't apply here. Harris isn't calling Trump supporters weird; she's calling just him weird.

This does a few things: it keeps the focus on Trump, allowing supporters to distance themselves from the statement. The lack of attachment to any particular action, statements, belief, etc. lets a person think about it "nakedly." Why is he weird?

Yes, we both know why, but this flips the script from the last 10 years from "here are various reasons why Trump is horrifying and could also be considered weird" to "Trump is weird, I'll let you chew on that."

It's all in the delivery. Stating what he is without explaining why.

I think it's worth returning a bit of agency to people in general to assess how they feel about that statement and come to their own conclusions. Edit: Especially because many of these people have attached themselves to Trump because they feel they have no agency otherwise. Could this be a means to cracking through the brainwashed masses? Something akin to, "wait, why am I idolizing this guy again?" Wishful thinking, yes, but being"plain weird" is such a broadly sweeping generalization that something should organically pop up in trump supporters' brains, without our prompting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There are various reasons why Trump is horrifying and could also be considered weird” to “Trump is weird, I’ll let you chew on that.”

I guess we'll just have to see, but these aren't people who "chew" on things in that way. If they were capable and willing to think critically and rationally about this, they wouldn't be there in the first place.

These people aren't just going to suddenly become rational overnight about their cult-like devotion to a man that they essentially worship as a demigod, because this time you said "weird" instead of "fascist."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Principled criticisms, accurate names like Fascist, Dictator, joke names like Don Poorleone and Orange man that we've used before work with Democrats but cause the Trump cult to turn their brains off.

Weird might be just the word that plants the seedling of doubt in a handful of Trump supporters' minds.