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I wrote this post for a friend, I'm sharing it here for anybody it might help. I got asked multiple times how I download cracked music software so I figured it'd be easier to write it down once. It's meant for people with very low technical skills who just want to start torrenting software without major risks, and it includes a bunch of safety tips that are already known in this community.

If you have feedback, let me know and I'll update the post.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

After a quick glance over your post, I have some thoughts;

Free: ProtonVPN

ProtonVPN is good for torrenting on the paid plan, not the free plan. Proton doesn't allow torrenting on their free plan. They will block your connection if they detect that you are torrenting, or they will disconnect you from their VPN tunnel - exposing your real IP on the torrent.

Paid: Mullvad

Mullvad is a decent choice, though they no longer support port forwarding. ~~You are still able to download, though you won't be able to seed iirc~~

VirusTotal

The problem with a virustotal scan is that pirated software is often false flagged for malware. It's difficult to tell what is safe from what you've downloaded. It's best to download from a trusted uploader, though that doesn't always guarantee safety as they can always go rogue (As an example, FTUApps were seen as safe until one of their uploads to 1337x contained malware).

Older uploads tend to have less false positives in my experience, though it can be very easy to become complacent.

edit; score out comment about mullvad seeding, others have pointed out that it still works fine! oops

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is going to be a total noob (and thus stupid) question, but is it possible to selfhost a vpn?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No such thing as a stupid question :p

Yes, you can self-host a VPN! Though there are a few things to keep in mind if you are going to torrent using one:

  • A self-hosted VPN on your own network isn't good for torrenting. Your own IP is still shown to other peers on the torrent, you might as well torrent without the VPN.
  • Depending on your server host, you may not be allowed to torrent on their network.
  • If you are allowed to torrent, you will have to watch your bandwidth limit*. I have a cheap VPS - for other things unrelated to VPNs/torrenting - and the limit is 20TB of traffic
  • Many hosts will respond to DMCA/Abuse complaints - very few are relaxed and ignore DMCA complaints, others may shut off your access to their services after a single complaint

*some hosts do not have a limit though cheap servers usually do.

From what I can tell, most server hosts don't care about what you are doing with your server, unless your server is gathering abuse reports or using an excessive amount of resources constantly. I would go for a subscription to a VPN instead of self-hosting but that's just me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Would you like to offer alternative suggestions to the vpn selection?

FWIW: I have a paid torguard and poaching my works license for NordLayer.

Both have their pros and cons. They’re generally good with anonymity and security and speeds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know of any free vpns for torrenting, though I believe ProtonVPN (paid), Windscribe (paid) and AirVPN (paid) offer port forwarding at the moment. PIA can be used to port forward, though they are owned by kape which is kinda sketchy to me.

You can use windscribe free for torrenting, but you will quickly hit the data cap they have in place

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can confirm PIA fully works as long as you're connected to one of the endpoints that supports port forwarding, and it works over wireguard which I prefer. My torrent client runs in a docker container that runs all traffic through it.

Whether or not you trust their claim of not saving any logs (especially after getting bought out a few years ago) is up to you, but there hasn't been any evidence to suggest they are, and they've had reputable audits to suggest they don't.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does PIA have a free plan that works? Since the only free option was immediately debunked in these comments.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't recommend using any free VPN for anything, personally.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I already have a paid one, but I wrote this for people who don't care enough to pay for one. Basically the alternative is either a free one or none. If I'm talking to a friend I'd rather they use a shady free VPN than none at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

windscribe offers 10 GB/month free, and you can build a $3 custom monthly plan if you need more bandwidth

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I've updated the post to have Windscribe as the recommended free one, with a warning about free VPNs

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So how do you check for viruses without a bunch of false positives?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sure that won't also get a bunch of false positives because it detects that a file is a keygen or crack?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@ScratchySoft it should know the difference between a virus and a keygen, yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I sure hope so.