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GrapheneOS now officially supports Pixel 9, 9 Pro, and 9 Pro XL | GrapheneOS is a private, secure mobile operating system with Android app compatibility, developed as a non-profit open source project (9to5google.com)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why not?

By buying a Pixel phone and degoogling it, you are rewarding good behaviour and punishing bad behaviour, corporations need to be trained like dogs.
Google is not going anywhere and their primary objective is profit. By buying a Pixel you are signaling to them a viable revenue stream that doesn't violate people's privacy.
You don't even need to give money to google directly, you can buy a second hand-one.

I say, vote with your wallet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Cause fuck Google, that’s why. I will likely indeed vote with my wallet, right now eyeing a fairphone with /e/OS but have not decided yet. It might not be the latest and greatest but I’m finding I don’t really use all the bells and whistles anyway. Give me email, web browsing, a basic camera, and maps, and that’s 90% of what I do on my phone so it looks like a suitable candidate. If I already had a google device then maybe Graphene is a great option, but I’m not further rewarding google by buying their spyware and having to mod it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Fuck apple fuck google fuck nestle fuck Raytheon fuck Lockheed fuck Boeing fuck Samsung fuck foxconn fuck dell fuck Intel fuck AMD fuck Chiquita fuck gm fuck ford fuck KIA fuck Cargill fuck monstanto fuck me fuck you fuck the world

THEY ALL SUCK

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

yes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I like you.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The problem with that is that pretty much only Graphene can offer a secure (locked boot loader) phone that is also private. Edit: Some Phones like the Fairphone or Shift can still be locked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

CalyxOS also allows to relock bootloader on some devices (not sure if only Pixels though).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How does Calyx compare to Graphene privacy/security wise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I like Calyx quite a bit. It's considerably more private than any stock Android out there. However, from my perspective, GrapheneOS is the best mobile os out there for security and privacy too, hands down.

I run GrapheneOS on my Pixel 8 Pro, tried Calyx back when I had the 6 Pro, and it pretty good and everything basically works, but GrapheneOS from the beginning is so vanilla, only has a couple of apps installed (phone, sms, Calc, files and such), everything else you need to choose to install.