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Mitch McConell says the quiet part out loud.

Exact full quote from CNN:

“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/4085063

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ukraine and Georgia have their own decisions to make

Then "the west" should let them make their own decisions instead of instigating coups everytime they decide against western interests.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Of course, in the most simplified form. But I take it you maybe don't mean Monaco or Uruguay or Botswana etc.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes I mean "the west" in the geopolitical term, not the geographical term. I think it's the one that gets the point across the clearest. I could also use the term imperial core or imperial triad, but I'm not sure if many would understand it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I get it. It somewhat scratches off Botswana.

Imperial core or triad is an interesting and new take yes... Could be USA+Russia+China. Isn't that more than "the west". Some can't decide if Russia is west or not.

I see some applying that term to US and changing the rest between anyone maintaining neutral relations with them. Yeah probably not an accurate idea.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The imperial triad is actually an old term, coined by Samir Amin I think, it refers to the co operation between the USA, Europe and Japan. Hence the usage of triad. And imperial because they are the old school imperial and colonial powers.

This is why I prefer using "the west", because people generally know what I'm talking about. As illustrated by your comment assuming the imperial triad could refer to USA + China + Russia, instead of the actual definition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah sounds good for it's time. It seems both are becoming outdated to tell the big picture.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Was West Germany an imperial state?