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The US hasn't declared a war since WW2, they've still gone to war. Neither the US nor Libya declared war on each other but it still counts as a war when the US bombs the absolute shit out of a country.
"War" implies the US and Mexico mutually fighting. Libya was military intervention not war.
A Special Military Operation, if you will.
checkmate! it can’t be called a war if we simply lob misiles at a country and arm every lunatic we find, completely destroying it in the process
Well yeah, you OBJECTIVELY can't call what happened in Libya a "war". It was bad and unnecessary, but by definition, not a war... You did not have US troops fighting Libyan troops.
So because the US troops were using weapons the Libyan troops couldn't effectively fight back against, it doesn't count as a war?
"It wasn't a battle, it was a just a massacre, so it's OK"
You're fighting with the air. I very clearly said Libya wasn't ok.
You're right, massacres aren't battles and we shouldn't call them that. Of course that doesn't make it any better but why call it a battle if it's not?
So if Libyan forces had managed to shoot down a western bomber, you would consider it a war?
Only when the US and Libya officially declare war on each other is it war.
The US hasn't declared war on anyone since WWII is it your opinion that it had not been at war since then?
Ok I'm gonna be honest I'm probably wrong, I was thinking semantically but googling that was a surprise for me. Just didn't want the hexbears to be right.
Try to be open to new perspectives
Its cool that you admitted you just didn't want anyone from hexbear to be right. That takes a lot of insight. You should consider opening your mind now to the possibility that you could be wrong about much more. You reflexive distaste for hexbear probably has more to do with your own cognitive dissonance than whether our opinions are wrong. Most of the people (bots) on hexbear were (are) libs too, but at some point opened their minds and began to approach history, political-economy, and current events with a more critical eye.
the argument starts as "It doesn't count as war" and then you run to your bailey for it to become "Hey I'm not endorsing those actions!"
Seen it half a dozen times from where I started scrolling
Are us pilots not us troops?
Of course, I forgot when you call it something other than war then it's not a war! That's why we have the Korean Police Action, the Vietnam Police Action, the Police Actions in Panama and Grenada, Desert Police Action 1 & 2 in Iraq, and the Global Police Action on Terror! None of those were wars, right?
Oh my god dude. Come on.