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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair: If you are chaining ternary expressions, you deserve to suffer whatever pain the language happens to inflict upon you tenfold.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why?

It's perfectly readable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is sort of readable. A switch is "perfectly" readable for switching.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Match is even better, short and sweet.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ternary expressions aren't switches though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is exactly why you shouldn't be using them in a situation that clearly calls for a switch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In the given example I'd probably use a switch / match expression, but ternaries are usually more flexible than switches and I don't think it's an issue to write a nested ternary instead of if else statements.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

ternaries are usually more flexible than switches

Which is bad for readability because the reader need to manually compute it to see whether it's doing simple switching or not. Also it adds the question of "Why did the author use a nested ternary instead of a switch? Was it meant to do more but it got left out unintentionally?"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is usually a safer and more readable way to do what you want to do by chaining ternaries in most languages.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, if you assume ternary operations work the same in PHP as in c and attempted to write the code demoed by this meme. You would end up with unexpected behavior. Maybe I should have said unexpected behavior instead of unsafe behavior.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PHP is the only language in existence with a left associative ternary operator. Ignoring PHP, the operator has worked exactly the same way for decades. And even PHP has now fixed the operator.

I don't think it's reasonable to avoid a very commonly supported pattern just because a single badly designed language implemented it wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, even if I give you the unexpected behavior point. The readability problem remains. Switch statements or tables will work just fine and are easier to read.

To be clear, I am fine with single ternary operations. I think nested ternary operations are harder to read and follow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I agree you should use a switch where applicable, but ternaries are the expression equivalent of if-else statements. If I have two conditions and a default, and each branch simply evaluates to a value of the same type, I'll probably just use a ternary.