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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The GOP dies with the Boomers so we still have a bit before it goes away. The DNC will become the new right but it will be because the center moves left and a Progressive Party is formed.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The GOP dies with the Boomers

This is incredibly dangerous and flat out WRONG thinking. This is being beyond naive.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It not archaic, but the republican party will have to make shifts to survive, whether that be further gerrymandering states to favor them, or pivoting on toxic policies, but the real truth is they lost a whole generation

They won't die, but if they make no changes, they will be referenced like today's green party. No one will think them capable of winning an election.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I agree they won't die but they will take a hit. As of 2021, 23% of Americans aged 18 to 29 are conservative, compared to 45% of Americans aged 65 and up.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry but your political enemy is dying off. They went to far right to pivot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I wish you were right but we're not that lucky.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The GOP dies with the Boomers

Looking at all the MAGA rallies over the last years, it looked like most attendants were significantly younger than Boomer age. Same with the guys who fly Trump flags on their pickup trucks. Same with the January 6 crowd. Same with the Proud Boys. Same with Bikers for Trump. Same with Moms for Liberty.

I think it's wishful thinking to believe that the GOP will just disappear when the last Boomer dies. The GOP has already transformed into the party of Trump over the last couple of years, and it will keep on transforming.

It would take significantly more than old people dying fit them GOP to vanish.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s a nice thought, it really is.

Unfortunately it’s a very sheltered thought bud. Wherever you live, all the boomers must be the republicans.

Where I live I see teenagers in maga hats regularly. When I meet someone who isn’t a hardline Trump supporter it literally shocks me.

Things might go back to some sanity at some point, but it’s hard to imagine when everyone is being radicalized every day through extreme forms of media on the internet.

When I was younger I fully believed that the world would become more progressive because, well, progress. Most of the more liberal kids I grew up with are hardcore republicans coming up on their 40s now posting liberal tears memes.

I don’t know. Maybe we’ll get lucky. I definitely hope we do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Teenagers are influenced by parents, usually by force.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There are plenty of rightwing pipelines out there for young people, regardless of their parents. With people like Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson, along with a much more online life so they can find and reinforce each other, I'd say it's a much friendlier environment for right wing radicalization among young people than 20-30 years ago. The backbone of the Republican party may be old bigots, but at least some people in the movement are working very hard to generate young bigots to replace them and racism, sexism, and transphobia aren't things only old people are prone to.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are an awful lot of prominent Republicans among Gen-X and Millennials. 36-year-old grandmother Lauren Boebert; 41 year old Matt Gaetz; 49 year old MTG. Milo Yiannopoulos is 39. The "Proud Boys" founder is 39. Founder of the Oathkeepers is 57 (just barely Gen-X). College Republicans are a thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's fair. But what demographic votes for someone like boebert? And she barely won her race.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their voters are Boomers. The majority of Gen X doesn't vote at all and the majority that do are Democrat. Millennials vote more often and align left. Zoomers are still to young but appear to be majority left.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This is a pretty big oversimplification. Here's a Pew research chart on the last few elections by party and age. The age of voters on both parties is high, but note that the difference between the number of younger Republicans isn't wildly different from the number of younger Democrats. Also note that the percentage over 65 is pretty small

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

@YoBuckStopsHere I don't know, I feel like I've been waiting 40 years for a new political party to be formed in the US.

It seems more like the two we have just keep morphing.

@Hazdaz

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because the only time the D's and R's actually work together is to quash any 3rd Party from gaining traction.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They also band together to lower taxes on our oligarchy and corporations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's always going to be two parties, because any other arrangement just hurts the parties with more in common. What does happen is one dies and a new party rises to replace it. For more simultaneous parties we need to (and should) change our voting system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You'll be waiting forever, the only way to make changes to the parties is to change them from within

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

We all have been waiting but the funding and branding haven't been there.