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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Maybe you’re new here, but fascism and liberalism are two sides of the capitalist coin. Liberals stopped masking almost the instant Biden set foot in the White House, despite the fact that 2/3 of covid deaths occurred while Biden was office (liberals will also excuse Biden’s “inaction” while claiming that Trump, who occupied the same office, was a tyrannical authoritarian totalitarian dictator who ran roughshod over the hallowed institutions of our precious democracy). Capitalism is a death cult, workers should run the world, not bourgeois scum and their running dogs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Biden's been in office 2.5x as long as US covid was a thing under Trump.

I agree Biden has decided to throw some lives in the chipper to keep REITs and employers happy, but the "twice as many deaths under Biden" stat is empty ragecalories.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im not sure; while fascism is certainly the logical conclusion of lieralism. And we can observe so in the protofascist regimes in early 20th century mexico and turkey. i think liberalism is paraphiletic to fascism sort of like reptiles are to birds. The material conditions that enable one over the other are distinct enough, and the core ideological asumptions seem to be different.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

fascism as an ideology is still at it's core a defense of capitalism. liberalism has many flavors but it includes everything that exists to support, reinforce, and defend the capitalist project. fascism is only different in that the violence liberalism wreaks in the colonies are turned inwards, towards the nations of the imperial core. but violence itself is a central pillar of all ideologies and it does not differentiate liberalism from fascism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You’re such a fucking idiot. 😂

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

it must be embarrassing to be a child amongst adults

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It’s actually embarrassing seeing what garbage the human race has produced where we actively try to regress instead of progress… but yeah, whatever helps you sleep at night sweetheart. 😂

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reliance on ableist insults reveals a casual comfort with eugenics 😉

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right. Sugar coat it however you want, sweetheart, but you’re talking like a fucking moron. 😂

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I had to inhabit your brain, I would look for ways to turn it off

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

And I would love to shut off the brains of all the people who follow and love fascist scum, but they’ve already done that for me so. :(

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Which countries funded and supported the Nazis and which country liberated Auschwitz? thinkin-lenin

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t know. I tried to look it up and see, but all I got was this https://www.hmmsa.org/the-journey-through-nazism-to-liberation So, if that was supposed to be some gotcha moment, you might want to include your sources so that I can actually see and read whatever the hell you’re going on about. I honestly don’t care enough to keep replying to you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yet here you are thinky-felix

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fascism is when you raise an eyebrow at the idea that capitalism has existed since the dawn of time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What…? Capitalism is fucking stupid too. I only believe in technocracy so… you’re trying to make.. a point.. or something? Anyway, as I replied to the other little butthurt fascist, I don’t care enough to keep replying so.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What the hell is technocracy? Is it when everyone gives daddy elon a blowjob?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sparkling bazinga Third Way

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

fascism and liberalism are two sides of the capitalist coin

Oh, look, a HexBear dipshit in the wild! I wonder how we can figure them out so easily!

This is "both sides are bad" bullshit, a destructive force from apathetic people. Don't listen to this shit. Vote every year, twice a year!

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The people pointing out both sides have dogshit covid policy are not the ones not being apathetic. It's the liberals who all went back to brunch and demanded everything re-open.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Gaslighting is telling people that Covid isn’t a threat even though you know it’s not and you deliberately cooked the books to sell that delusion. Gaslighting is telling people you’re supposed to be responsible for governing that a vaccine that was never shown to stop the spread of a disease does, in fact, do that. Gaslighting is telling people that you must personally assess your own risk to a collective, public health crisis with the paltry tools that have been provided, then strip away or sabotage every last one of those tools so they cannot provide even a sliver of usefulness to anyone but the most bad faith interpretations.

All of these things are things both Amerikkka’s fascist wing and liberal, fascist-enabling wing have done and are currently doing (if they’re not outright ignoring it). To anyone with a pulse, there is no meaningful difference, and indeed they are so often intertwined.

Also, Marx was based.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's more than two political ideologies. The person you're replying to isn't talking about American political parties.

There's a lot of history and theory about how different ideologies, especially liberalism and fascism, interact with each other. This is what they were making reference to.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Vote every year, twice a year!

lmao this really is all politics is to shitlibs

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The fact that we care about life more than the blood altar of capital tends to make it easy to find us. And remember: losing ideological battles online is but a prelude to losing such battles in the real world.

Edit: imagine thinking that voting every few years for bourgeois puppets equals democracy. Real democracy is practiced in every home, school, and workplace every day by every person. Liberals don’t want to hear this, though, because they tend to do poorly when everyone everywhere is able and willing to participate in a truly democratic society 😉

If you want to really see how democratic the USA is, try forming a union in your workplace. Try protesting in a way that inconveniences capital. Try going to a city when you have no money or connections. Try speaking publicly about how Biden has given $75 billion+ to Ukrainian Nazis. Then see just how amazing and democratic life in the USA really is.

And yes, both sides are definitely bad, as evidenced by the fact that by any objective measure, everything in the USA is worse than it was when Trump was president. But thankfully there’s a third side called Marxism. If it didn’t work and it was really such a failure, then you wouldn’t be panicking daily about China’s rise. And if China is not actually communist, I assume you would have no issue with the CPC taking over the USA, since the result would be the same, right? Whatever human rights issues they supposedly have pale in comparison to the multiple ongoing genocides perpetrated by the USA’s ruling class. The Iraq War alone—supported by both American liberals and fascists—is far worse than anything the Nazis in the CIA say that China has done.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I do vote every year and have since I turned 18

Last year I wrote in names for every candidate

here's who I voted forche fidel-cool mao-shining lenin-shining stalin-smokin

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

This is "both sides are bad" bullshit, a destructive force from apathetic people. Don't listen to this shit. Vote every year, twice a year!

Biden has been in office for almost four years. Abortion was banned under his watch. He could have prevented it by expanding the supreme court - he chose not to. He chose to let thousands of women suffer and die.

Student loan forgiveness was promised by Biden - a promise he failed to deliver. Again, expanding the supreme court could have prevented this.

Biden has done absolutely nothing to stand up to the military-industrial complex. He pulled out of Afghanistan, then almost immediately began sending billions in "lethal aid" to Ukraine.

Biden has upheld the deportation laws at the Mexican border that Trump put in place. He is actively choosing to do that!

I don't understand how any rational person can look at Biden and say he's doing anything even slightly left-wing. He is not. Objective reality shows is that both sides (Democrats and Republicans) ARE the same because they are DOING the same thing. Ideology says they are different. Reality says they are the same. If you believe they are different, you are valuing ideology over reality.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The good cop brought me some chips, the bad cop yelled at me, how dare you suggest that the good cop and bad cop are the same!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Its not a both sides are bad. Its an academic discussion about the genealogy of facism. And when you look at protofacist regimes like the young turks its very clear their ideology has a basis in liberalism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you, I will vote at least a dozen times in at least a dozen counties just for you. Be the change you want to see in the world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

"Waaaah waaaah ad hominem attacks waaah"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Man I was reading his comment and I was like what is this whataboutism nonsense he's talking about, then it made sense when I read your comment. Guess I gotta start looking at usernames again before reading comments

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Guess you need to put down the Harry Potter and read actual theory/history before discussing topics about which you are willfully ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

please god go back to reddit-logo

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