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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If real people hate your game because of the changes you made from the last one (that you took away from them), that's not a review bomb.

It's just a review.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the game/steam release definitely deserved bad reviews - but it'd be hard to deny that it wasn't also a bombing run.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (13 children)

A review bomb is when people start jumping down the game's throat with negative reviews for shit unrelated/peripheral to the game. If they're triggered by the actual core design choices of the game it isn't a review bomb.

These reviews are because the game is a money grubbing downgrade from the game people bought and had taken away from them, and this is the first opportunity they had to publish a review on a storefront. The motivation being the actual game means it can't be a review bomb.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So if General motors was using slave labour to build their cars and feeding said labour with baby kittens, would you consider it a review bomb for someone to say 'You shouldn't buy the latest vehicle from General motors because of the way it is made'?

What if general motors came out and said that they think a great start to the day is to wake up and punch a dutchman in the face?

A review is, ultimately, a recommendation of whether or not you think other people should buy this product. If you can't recommend it because of something the company who made it did, to me, it's still a review. Because recommending that product is recommending financial support of that company. Not recommending it, is not supporting them.

For me a real review bomb would occur generally only in a case where a site like 4chan might suddenly spin a wheel of mayhem and pick a random game to just go shit on or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

By definition, yes, that's a review bomb. It has no connection in any way to the quality of the product, which is what a review is.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're entirely disconnected to reality if you think Overwatch 2 deserves to be the worst-reviewed game on Steam.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On Steam being reviewed poorly is not a matter of rating from 1 to 10, but how many people would recommend it or not. It's completely valid that the vast majority of people would not recommend this game even if it's not a 0/10.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

yes obviously, and none of that changes anything about the fact that very clearly OW2 isn't bad enough to deserve the title of worst rated game on steam

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You tried to argue with someone else over this, but the fact that more people played it, being F2P, means that more people can agree that they wouldn't recommend it. Given how Steam ratings work, that makes it the worst rated. There's no arguing how it is. You seem to take an issue with it as if it meant Gabe Newell personally stamped it with a 0/10, which is not how it works.

In Steam, being 4/10 for thousands of people is worse than being 0/10 for a couple people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Based on what?

The negatives are extremely bad, and people are legitimately reviewing the game negatively because they legitimately think it's a pile of shit.

It is literally unconditionally impossible for it to be a review bomb if the reviews are motivated by the core design decisions of the game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Today's concurrent player peak is ~47k.

Why would 47k people choose to play the game when it's the worst game on Steam? Literally worse than a game like Bad Rats: the Rats' Revenge that fundamentally doesn't function correctly. For reference, its peak today was about 20 players.

Before you reply with something like "marketing", you seriously think that if Bad Rats launched today, and with the same marketing budget as OW2, that it would achieve anywhere close to 47k players peak 10 months after its release?

Like I said: you're disconnected from reality if you think OW2 is the worst game on Steam.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Did bad rats deliberately steal a game people liked to replace it with an addiction machine?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are really trying to downplay the power of marketing, but you seem to realize that gets people playing. Not only that but live service design is very effective at keeping people playing even when they are not having any fun whatsoever. Because they gotta grind the battle pass and such. Extrinsic rewards and habit-forming conditioning making up for a lack of intrinsic enjoyment.

Still, I would agree with you that it's not the worst game on Steam, but like I mentioned in the other comment, that's not what steam ratings mean. It means that the vast majority people would not recommend it, and that seems pretty reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

bf2042 had a playercount in the high 1000s 2 months after its launch

ow2 released 10 months ago

are you saying bf2042 didn't have marketing?

which is more likely:

  • 50k people have been brainwashed into playing the game every day, and similar numbers into watching it on twitch
  • there is review bombing
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't look like you even read my full comment so I'm gonna wait till you do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i mean i ignored the second part because it was irrelevant

"You're entirely disconnected to reality if you think Overwatch 2 deserves to be the worst-reviewed game on Steam." doesn't say "deserves to be the worst game", so if we're playing the reading game maybe you should take the first turn

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, so you have no response to it so you are gonna pretend it doesn't matter. I see.

I could say I'd do the same but nothing you are saying now even addresses what I already responded to you, so I'll just call it a job done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

yes good job you failed to read my comment again 👏👏