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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I believe it 100%.

I started riding with a Garmin bike radar and installed an app that tells me exactly how fast a car is going when it passes, and the majority are over the speed limit.

Just the other day, in a 60 km/h zone, I clocked two cars going 125 km/h.

If I thought for a second that police would charge these drivers using photo/video evidence, I'd fork over the $500 to get the radar with a camera built-in and report each and every speeding driver that passes me.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (79 children)

In Denmark we have the lovely new law that if you drive more than 100% over the speed limit and over 100 kmh or drive over 200 kmh at all or drunk driving with over 2‰ they confiscate the car and you are not getting it back at all. They confiscate the car regadles of who owns the car (with very few exceptions) and that is also if it is leased. So far since when the law started they have confiscated over 2000 cars in two years. It's my favourite law of all laws right now. The fine for driving crazy is also nicely proportional to your income and it removes the car so the person cannot just drive without license afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (34 children)

I can't get behind property seizure without compensation, but I can understand everything else.

Even if they said "you can't have this car any more, but can sell it from our facility" that'd be better I think

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In effect, is it really that different to a fine? It seems to have a couple of advantages, though: it's easier to collect, and it's proportional, so a person who can afford a fancy luxury car pays more than someone in an old banger, without the complexity of having to evaluate their income and savings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (15 children)

This is exactly the reason they are doing it. Proportional to income and the car is completely and physically removed from the road. There was a big issue here where the offender would just drive without license or the car was leased or borrowed so there was no real penalty. Now the leasing company would have to take responsibility for leasing fancy supercars to anyone and everyone and people lending their car to a known drunk or fast driver would definitely think twice.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Normally me neither, bit in this context where you are driving so recklessly you are endangering everyone else and we are talking over double the speed limit I'll allow it. Noone has any rights left when you are doing that kind of stuff deliberately.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@TDCN @Showroom7561 I'll be honest I think it's an an odd stance to take to say confiscation is wrong. The 100 kmh limit is about 60 mph, to be over 100% that means the limit is 30 mph. This limit is normally through a town, village or urban area. So if someone drives at 60 mph down the high street, that's not just a "little bit of speeding", that's completely reckless

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@TDCN I do admire the Danish pragmatism endlessly. One of my favorite countries. Thanks for sharing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@TDCN @Showroom7561 In my hometown its kind of a hobby to rent fancy sports cars for the weekend and this is as stupid as it sounds. I would love this law for Germany as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@TDCN @Showroom7561 During my holiday in DK I already noticed speeding is not really a thing.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Showroom7561 @mondoman712 what’s the name of the app and for which platform is it? Having the info about how fast someone overtakes one sounds very interesting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's called "My Bike Radar Traffic" in the Garmin Connect IQ app. 👌

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Showroom7561 @mondoman712 the UK also has new amendments to the highway code about safe passing distances for bikes, horses, etc; my brother has front and rear cameras for his bike and the police are actually following up on his reports of drivers passing dangerously close, even at lower speeds. Sometimes things do change for the better

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