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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whole of the West is dealing with it to some degree imo. America is just as always the most noticeable due to the attention it gets in the news around the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea I noticed in the news recently that Germany is having trouble with the rise of fascist groups as well. I hope there are non-violent course corrections for us all this time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Personally I think in four years time it's possible Australia and UK (but even then UK Labor is transphobic) might be the last bastions of progressivism in the West (Australia voted out their right wing party last year, and the UK Conservatives don't seem to have a path to re-election.) The rest don't have recent enough memory of how right-wing populism doesn't solve problems. USA does, but USA has the problem of hyperpartisanship to a degree that some argue Democrat and Republican constitute two separate nations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh that's good to hear, I thought both of those countries were going conservative as well. As long as there's some civilly practical place left, I'll just go there.

I hear about how different Democrats and Republicans in the states are a lot, but there are so many civil and practical issues that Americans agree on regardless of which political party they're part of that at this point I've drawn the conclusion that the 'progressives" in the states simply haven't been taken in by the media empire that pours capital into advocating for conservative ideals and a manufactured schism in the way of life in the United States.

Conservatives have purchased so much air time and always appeal to the basest vices and fears that it seems like their civil rights abuses and antiquated perspectives on race and authority are more widely held than they actually are if you poll all Americans. And that checks out with the people I've talked to around the country in the last couple years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah our last PM here in Australia was very religious and a useless prick (who had to hire an 'empathy coach' I shit you not) and thankfully people realised he was an idiot. Sadly most of our parties have drifted right over the last 50-odd years so even our Labour is further right than a lot of people are happy with, and the Liberals (with a big L, they're fiscal liberals but social conservatives) got their arses kicked last election. Greens have some support at least and some teeth to fight where they can but they're not terribly well organised.

But we do have issues with far-right groups popping up and the importing of terrible US ideology. There are SovCits, Neo-Nazi groups and very open racism from groups too. I've even heard a protest group chanting "Let's Go Brandon" because something something

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The bizarre transference of American conservative bigotry and greed rubbing off abroad was what I was aware of.

Frickin' rupert Murdoch News.

The export of fear-mongering news is abhorrent, I traveled a lot recently and was shocked every time someone said, "but you know Trump makes good points", what happened multiple times in countries separated by distance and I assumed political and ideological temperament.

Like this romanian or Australian or Portuguese beach bum sitting with me, having a beer and eating the local cuisine will suddenly just bust out "Good thing about that Mexican wall though, right?" or "Q knows what he's talking about with pizza gate" or the equivalent and I'll be stunned at the presumed insider "knowledge" of American conservative talking points and that someone thousands of miles away has somehow assimilated (or been poisoned with) these weird American conservative biases and misinformation and it's become part of their personality.