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John Fetterman says he'll 'never understand' progressives who refuse to support Joe Biden
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The time for that vote is in the primaries. THAT'S when you make your stand, have your protest, and try to move the party left. Otherwise you are ignoring someone that you agree with 50% of the time and helping someone you agree with 0% of the time.
Who's our primary choice against Biden? Remember when the DnC fucked Bernie?
The choice between a soft R vs a hard R is hardly a choice.
The DNC didn't "fuck over" Bernie. He lost. I voted for him in the primary, and would have loved to see him win the nomination. But he didn't, so I voted for the next best thing (and, you know, the non-fascist).
Except he didnt lose. Clyburn endorsed Biden and then everyone suddenly dropped out. Obama went on a smug, shit-eating Bernie bashing tour, proving that he was never anything more than a conservative plant.
As someone else said, soft Rs are not a reasonable option versus hard Rs.
My understanding was that people are referring to his primary loss against Hillary when they blame the DNC for his loss. But, to be clear, you're talking about his primary loss to Biden?
You mean when he was far ahead of Biden in the polls?...when he won Iowa but Buttegieg declared victory there prematurely for some reason?
Yes. That one also
That's some revisionist history. Some of us still remember Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
These responses were referring to the 2020 election. Wasserman Schultz hasn't been DNC chair since 2016.
Go look up why she turned in her resignation.
The DCCC has admitted that they don't respect primaries and have actively chosen against primary results.
When since the 1960s, when primaries started being open to all, have they done this?
They specifically admitted to it in the 2016 race. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz got some heat for it. Then in the 2020 race Biden was at the bottom of the primaries then suddenly Clyburn endorsed him and everyone else dropped out. Biden did not win with voter approval; he won with trump disapproval. It will always be a tainted win for a guy who openly championed right wing ideas and who lost three previous attempts to run.
Biden "openly championed right wing ideas"? When, in the fucking 90s? And absolutely nothing happened in the years since.
Completely ignore that he's the most progressive president we've had since FDR. Or LBJ at the very least.
He had been in favor of abolishing social safety nets all the way up until he was picked by Obama. He was picked as a sympathetic vote for conservatives, as most VPs are. Biden was not picked for his progressive record.
Would you be considered good at math? Im asking because the "math" that people have used to prove Sanders "won" is really flawed.
Biden polled better vs Trump and many stepped aside rather than risk a dictatorship in the USA.
As an aside your notion of "right wing" is either historically inaccurate or you are being inappropriately eurocentric in your views.
So what do you call America conservatives who have successfulky encouraged violence against other cirizens, consistently lied on every policy position, taken control of all broadcast airwaves, and are desperately trying to re-elect a failure and a criminal?
Move the party left? Unless you have the ability to own our own politicians, there is no 'move the party left'