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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm going to get downvoted to hell here, but if you defend google here, you should be defending Tesla when someone severely misuses auto-pilot.

Play games on AP and don't pay attention causing crash, not Tesla's fault. Drive off a bridge cause the GPS tells you to, not Google's fault.

You're responsible for driving your car at all times.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least AP presents itself (somewhat) as an autonomous system though… even the best GPS obviously still requires you to look at the road.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When you sit in the car, it really doesn't though. When you enable it, it clearly warns you about the dangers involved and to always pay attention. The radar versions even warned you about specific situations it would fail in and potentially cause a fatal accident. All cars that rely on radar have that issue and warn their users.

Anyone who's used it knows it clearly has problems, and honestly, it can be a little nerve racking getting used to using at first as well, because it does have problems and you need to learn them. My partner doesn't like using it because of those problems.

The majority of people causing accidents on it have simply grown accustomed to it. They know when it will usually fail, and then make poor choices and end up in a rare circumstance. People are just people and make all sorts of bad choices. Some people follow the GPS off a bridge or into a lake.

That's not to say I don't think there's room for Tesla to improve on this, like using the in cabin camera to further help detect if someone is paying attention or not, but ultimately it falls on the driver to pay attention.

If you happen to be given a Tesla with AP already enabled on your profile, and you've only gone off what you heard in the media then sure maybe, but those aren't the people causing problems. And really, if you rent a Tesla, I really do hope it's all disabled by default so you have to turn it on and go through the setup. That would be a legit problem in my mind otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The biggest fault here would be whoever was in charge of that bridge. If it collapsed 9 years ago why was it not blocked off?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

My exact first thought. And why not a billion BIG Red SIGNS saying shit like: "Collapsed Bridge ahead", "Warning: immediate death ahead", "What the fuck are doing?! Turn around", etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's the biggest question for me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

A GPS is a tool that aids a person

Tesla FSD is marketed as Self Driving

User error caused this man to go over a cliff. User error does not excuse tesla accidents when the user is supposed to be hands off. One was an accident caused by a person, the other was an accident caused by a machine attempting to make human decisions. There’s a huge difference.