There isn't "meat industry" farming or "vegan industry" farming. The primary dichotomies in farming are industrial vs small scale, organic vs conventional, and local vs global. If you don't like monocultural industrial farming, then support the other types of farmers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do support non-monoculture farming. Problem is as a consumer there isn't an easy way to know how it was farmed. Imo sustainable farming should be legislated by government.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is by way of nationally recognized organic standards. Otherwise governments tend to be in bed with agrochemical and agribusiness companies.

Relevant section of Canadian organic standards:

5.4.2 Where appropriate, the soil fertility and biological activity shall be maintained or increased, through: a) crop rotations that are as varied as possible and include plough-down crops, legumes, catch crops and deep-rooting plants; b) incorporation of plant and animal matter in compliance with this standard and with Table 4.2 (Column 1) of CAN/CGSB-32.311, including the following:

composted animal and plant matter;

non-composted plant matter, specifically legumes, plough-down crops or deep-rooting plants within the framework of an appropriate multiyear rotation plan; and

unprocessed animal manure, including liquid manure and slurry, subject to the requirements of 5.5.1

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's good countries are moving towards this, because goddamn the worst actors do not change unless forced to.

Lately animal manure has been started being used more compared to synthetics, mostly because the materials needed for synthetics were running out, and it was yet again found animal manure actually has all the needed materials healthy soil needs and more.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've always heard that "organic" farming is really not especially different from conventional farming, including from some folks in agriculture. Like, they still use chemical pesticides and stuff, just different ones that are less effective and so sprayed more heavily.

I don't have anything to back that up with though, so there's a reasonable chance you have better info here. I'd be interested to know more if you've got standards and such you can share?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lived at a farm that got some organic farming approvals; it depends on the country. And perhaps even your region. In my country, you can get certain approvals/certifications for organic farming, and the regulations for that is very strict. Things like "chemical" (synthetic) pesticides are forbidden outright, so are strong fertilizers etc. This has government oversight, so, there are randomized sampling and testing done on approved entities (farms, companies).

Sadly this often leads to higher costs and more land use. Like it or not, a lot of the things forbidden do lead to much higher yields etc. The end result is higher prices; organic (certified) products are quite expensive here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Totally, organic is not the same as sustainable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Organic is very much ~~the same as~~ about sustainability. The degree to which a particular enterprise succeeds in living up to organic principles and to internationally recognized organic standards is a different question.

Organic standards are available to be read. Here is the Canadian standards. You'll notice that sustainability is very much the organizing principle.

Organic standards are not the be-all and end-all of sustainability, that is true.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Plus, natural pesticides aren't necessarily better for things.